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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 12:13 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 1
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Chrome users - any site issues?

Hey any Google Chrome users having issues with viewing the site? For me it occasionally turns up funny, and has only started happening after the recent server shift. It's happening for both my laptop and my brand new desktop as well, so it's not an isolated case :/

This is an example of turning up funny:

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OK, I think I know what the problem is, but I don't know how vBulletin handles styles so I don't know how it should be fixed properly.

It turns out there are two non-trivial stylesheets that get included on each page. One is the red-looking thing, and the other is the main 'blue.css' stylesheet where almost all of the red is overriden. However, the blue.css one is declared as "alternate" which means it can be switched out. In Firefox you can actually see the effect by going to View -> Page Style and switching the alternate off.

The problem can be made to occur on WebKit-based (Chrome, Safari) browsers because it seems that, while it normally chugs along and just treats it normally, it seems that if the style comes too slowly, it just gets ignored. So Ctrl+F5 refreshing can actually work against you as it downloads everything again, and the blue.css comes toward the end on my machine, which means it may come late again.

tl;dr As a maybe workaround (I'm not confident on this one), navigate to http://www.sc2sea.com/images/styles/...style/blue.css manually, refresh it, then come back.

Actual solution: make blue.css a non-alternate stylesheet. I have no idea how you get vBulletin to do that, so on this one, nirvAnA, you're on you're own!

P.S. Didn't know Firefox actually has UI for switching alternate stylesheets, learnt something new today!

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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 12:26 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,638 # 2
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Hey man, the site ended up looking just like that on Chrome on my Macbook Pro. But on my Windows desktop, using Chrome, it's fine. Does this not happen in other browsers?
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 12:41 AM BnetId: ZCMazEi.455  Race: Clan: ZC  Location: Selangor, Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 517 # 3
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Its happening to me too, but 1 out of...some number of times, its all fine.

EDIT
Seems to have been fixed for now =)
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 12:59 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 4
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crazerk press crtl + F5 see if that works!

it works fine on my chrome
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 1:32 AM BnetId: mustapusta.239  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 113 # 5
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no problem on chrome here. using it since forever
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 1:48 AM BnetId: Brultze. 398  Race: Clan: nRv  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 369 # 6
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Lol I've been having the same problem since I sent my com to be repaired :P. It goes away once I refresh the page but will almost definitely come back whenever I open sc2sea again.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 6:20 AM BnetId: Phoenix.833  Race: Location: Perth  Total Posts Made: 2 # 7
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 7:17 AM BnetId: matthras.568  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 83 # 8
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Yep. Using Chrome on Windows 7 and having this exact same problem.

It doesn't affect the links or whatever, just the layout, which is a relatively minor irritance.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 9:11 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: Apth.767  Race: Location: Auckland, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 414 # 9
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Not having any problems with Chrome here. Might have something to do with Chrome + screen resolution?
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 10:36 AM BnetId: SC2: Delraich # 349  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 314 # 10
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I had similar problems using chrome before but pressing Control and F5 fixed it.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 10:47 AM BnetId: ZCMazEi.455  Race: Clan: ZC  Location: Selangor, Malaysia  Total Posts Made: 517 # 11
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Oh woop, problem's back and ctrl + F5 not helping. Oh well, it'll solve itself some time.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 12:20 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xpaperclip.405  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 177 # 12
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OK, I think I know what the problem is, but I don't know how vBulletin handles styles so I don't know how it should be fixed properly.

It turns out there are two non-trivial stylesheets that get included on each page. One is the red-looking thing, and the other is the main 'blue.css' stylesheet where almost all of the red is overriden. However, the blue.css one is declared as "alternate" which means it can be switched out. In Firefox you can actually see the effect by going to View -> Page Style and switching the alternate off.

The problem can be made to occur on WebKit-based (Chrome, Safari) browsers because it seems that, while it normally chugs along and just treats it normally, it seems that if the style comes too slowly, it just gets ignored. So Ctrl+F5 refreshing can actually work against you as it downloads everything again, and the blue.css comes toward the end on my machine, which means it may come late again.

tl;dr As a maybe workaround (I'm not confident on this one), navigate to http://www.sc2sea.com/images/styles/...style/blue.css manually, refresh it, then come back.

Actual solution: make blue.css a non-alternate stylesheet. I have no idea how you get vBulletin to do that, so on this one, nirvAnA, you're on you're own!

P.S. Didn't know Firefox actually has UI for switching alternate stylesheets, learnt something new today!

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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 12:44 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 13
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My firefox looks identical to the OP when it's halfway through loading the page... chances are this is just something intermittent with your browser/internet connection/prox/firewall causing the page to stop loading.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 3:54 PM BnetId: Bendy.352  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 62 # 14
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Yeah this has been happening for a couple of weeks now with Chrome on my desktop. Ctrl+F5 doesn't tend to fix it. The fix from xpaperclip seems to work pretty well though, cheers!
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 4:27 PM BnetId: PickleWeasel  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 462 # 15
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Yeah this happens to me on chrome.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 4:30 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 16
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Nope it seems to only occur on Chrome. Mine fixes itself randomly so I'm not quite sure what's happening haha. I did what xpaperclip suggested anyway, hope it won't happen again. (or will it? lol)

Also updated the OP with what he said!

Thanks for the response guys!
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 5:02 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xpaperclip.405  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 177 # 17
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hope it won't happen again. (or will it? lol)
It's definitely only a workaround, not a proper fix, so unfortunately, it'll probably re-occur. In fact, ever since you mentioned it, it's happening to me more often!

The styles on this site are still kind of messed up. When I get some decent free time (in, like, maybe a month ), I'll go through and clean it up if it's OK with the admins.
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 7:02 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xpaperclip.405  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 177 # 18
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If it still happens a lot for you (i.e. me, now that crAzerk has mentioned it), I've made a small Greasemonkey script to force a reload on the blue.css. Should install for Chrome by just going to the link.

Totally untested aside from me refreshing the pages a few times, so don't install this unless you have continuing issues. (Edit: Not because it's dangerous, but it could cause certain things to download twice unnecessarily and make the page a bit slower.)

http://pit.xpaperclip.net/userscripts/sc2seafix.user.js (Also slims the page margin, good for those who browse in small windows)
http://pit.xpaperclip.net/userscript...noslim.user.js (Doesn't)

Both also include something special for Bakalnu. He should install it regardless

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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 7:39 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 19
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Totally untested aside from me refreshing the pages a few times, so don't install this unless you have continuing issues.
What could go wrong?

(I'm having the whole red theme atm as I'm typing this haha)
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Unread Sun, 18th-Sep-2011, 7:51 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xpaperclip.405  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 177 # 20
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Shouldn't break anything, but it could cause the stylesheet to download twice (wastes a bit of bandwidth).
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