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AxSGRiM · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 12:48 AM

I think this is a really good step forward to try and promote SC2 tournaments like Riot have with LoL (130K+ viewers right now) I hope Blizzard continues to do more things and hear the community out... Seems like the bunch of employees they removed have motivated the ones left with a job to try and give the community what it wants! ;D

SmirkToT · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 1:01 AM

they have been doing this for a long time

if you consider it's a community similar to sc2sea and teamliquid

NvPinder · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 7:14 AM

Whilst it's a 'good step forward', its not a big enough step forward. They need advertising, in some way, inside of the battle.net 2.0 client itself linking, or even embedding, streams of major tournaments when they are live and happening.

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**Dox** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 8:33 AM

Yeah they've been advertising events since launch, but as Pinder said - a button within the battle.net client announcing/linking to live streams would be a massive leap forward. (They're aware of this)

Peleus · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 8:37 AM

If only there was some news section that wasn't being used inside the battle.net client.......

**Dox** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 8:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PeleusSPR

If only there was some news section that wasn't being used inside the battle.net client.......

They advertise events in the community window (in-game) all the time - it happens even more often in the KR client. But knowing about them in advance is well and good, but a live announcement (like the War3 Tournament component) is what's really needed.

simon · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 9:06 AM

even hon has implimented notifications for live events which allow you to watch in game or externally.

breadfan · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 9:14 AM

I honestly think it's got to be a little bit dodgy that LoL gets 130k for an event, but even if they do it's only for big events. All other times SC gets more viewers.

But yeah, would be great if Blizz incorporated some sort of big "WATCH IT LIVE RIGHT NOW" button that appeared as soon as you log into the client

TAriiChard · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 9:46 AM

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I honestly think it's got to be a little bit dodgy that LoL gets 130k for an event, but even if they do it's only for big events. All other times SC gets more viewers.

But yeah, would be great if Blizz incorporated some sort of big "WATCH IT LIVE RIGHT NOW" button that appeared as soon as you log into the client

I'm no LOL fan but LOL has always gotten more viewers. Even the LOL individual streamers get at least twice as many viewers as the sc2 streamers. <-- well at least last time i checked it was ...

**Maynarde** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TAriiChard

I'm no LOL fan but LOL has always gotten more viewers. Even the LOL individual streamers get at least twice as many viewers as the sc2 streamers. <-- well at least last time i checked it was ...

My impression is that SC2 is pretty huge in the Western world (Europe, America, Australia) and LoL is extremely popular in Eastern countries (China, Korea, etc) and still a pretty solid following in the Europe too. There are a LOT of people in those Eastern countries as well so it's not surprising the viewer count is so huge.

breadfan · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TAriiChard

I'm no LOL fan but LOL has always gotten more viewers. Even the LOL individual streamers get at least twice as many viewers as the sc2 streamers. <-- well at least last time i checked it was ...

Every time I check (including when I wrote that post and right now) SC2 has more than LoL. I guess for both it depends who is streaming of course. If you have a top zerg, a top terran and a top protoss all streaming, chances are you'll get much better numbers, but say there is no top terran streaming, potentially a lot of players (terrans who only watch terran streamers) are alienated and therefore don't watch. LoL on the other hand, people don't restrict themselves to just one champion - they'll probably play a few that have a very high chance of having something for them on any stream

SC2 consistently gets more viewers on individual streams, LoL for whatever reason (maybe viewers on the client or whatever) just seems to top SC2 in tournaments.

**Dox** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:10 AM

As SC2 is a solo title (competitively) and LoL is a team (5v5) title, it's kind of expected that the playerbase and viewership would be exponentially higher. But yeah, LoL (moba genre in general) is much bigger in the asian gamer base than SC2 at the moment.

Peleus · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:34 AM

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As SC2 is a solo title (competitively) and LoL is a team (5v5) title, it's kind of expected that the playerbase and viewership would be exponentially higher. But yeah, LoL (moba genre in general) is much bigger in the asian gamer base than SC2 at the moment.

How does that logic hold? Suddenly BF3 with teams of 8 would be even more popular?

**Dox** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:44 AM

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How does that logic hold? Suddenly BF3 with teams of 8 would be even more popular?

If it was a good spectator game, sure. But it's not.

Meatex · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:48 AM

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If it was a good spectator game, sure. But it's not.

Personally I don't think LoL is at all interesting from a spectators point of view
I think that it even has a higher barrier for entry when watching stream than sc2 but it engages differently.

When I tried watching some LoL streams it was more confusing by leaps and bounds compared to sc2 casts. And when I watched sc2 casts I did so with no bw, sc1 or sc2 knowledge or experience and it was enjoyable. I played LoL for maybe 10 hours prior to watching streams (tournament casts) and was clueless.

**Maynarde** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:41 AM

I think the REAL question here is;

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Meatex · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:44 AM

LoL you can throw the blame of loses onto other players and not have to think about it
SC2 forces you to be introspective and lots of people don't like doing that at all. No one to blame for your lose other than yourself so sc2 can make you all to aware of your weaknesses whereas in LoL you can remain blissfully ignorant

**Dox** · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 11:56 AM

I share that opinion btw, but the numbers speak for themselves.

FS.Kezz · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 12:21 PM

During large tournaments, the LoL client has an inbuilt stream viewer so even if 80% of the playerbase doesn't 'follow the competitive scene' strictly, they get to see the games anyway. If SC2 had the same thing, we'd get 200k+ easily.

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Aiya:

mm-hm

Peleus · Sat, 10th-Mar-2012, 12:23 PM

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During large tournaments, the LoL client has an inbuilt stream viewer so even if 80% of the playerbase doesn't 'follow the competitive scene' strictly, they get to see the games anyway. If SC2 had the same thing, we'd get 200k+ easily.

I know they had a link to the streams, but I've never seen a live stream actually displayed in there?

Also, having a look at the number of players in each game, I think it's quite clear why LoL has more viewers.

LoL - Approx 1.4 million players daily.
SC2 - Approx 110k players daily.