Apology to [ToR] and anyone else it be whom it may be relevant.
So after speaking with another member of ToR for about 10minutes earlier today it came to my attention that their is mutliple people (I have no idea, so weither they're fellow clan mates or just fellow members of sc2sea community i don't know), that have some form of problem with either who i am or my general attitude, which also lead to it being recomended i post a thread about it on sc2sea.
So im taking that recomendation and doing just that and posting an apology thread.
So in the case, first I want to apology to all and every member (Current or former) of ToR who at one stage or another i have annoyed, offended, or straight up pissed off with my attitude or anything else i have done.
And second to the sc2sea community in general, for showing at times, what i can only describe as a heavily negative, or perhaps upsetting attitude in various sitatuions.
To follow that up; I will try to fix my attitude/control emotations so that i can hopefully not annoyone, or atleast keep people who are annoyed by to a minimal.
So, that leads me to having to ask, IF in future i've done something to annoy anyone, if that person could contact me and attempt to sort out, rather then not saying anything at all, i feel that long term that would be able to keep conflicts between myself and anyone at all, to hopefully none at all.
And again, im sorry for my general poor attitude to community in general.
More seriously, it seems strange to come across this sort of thread when you don't have a clue of what happened, Synizta having always been a nice and friendly bloke on the chat when i was there.
I think we don't need to know though, his apologize are intended to those who had been hurt by him I guess. And then that's a good move to apologize then, whatever you have done wrong.
More seriously, it seems strange to come across this sort of thread when you don't have a clue of what happened, Synizta having always been a nice and friendly bloke on the chat when i was there.
I think we don't need to know though, his apologize are intended to those who had been hurt by him I guess. And then that's a good move to apologize then, whatever you have done wrong.
I must have said this enough times recently, but airing every disagreement people have in public just looks poor.
A public apology is just as silly if you still refuse to contact the people who originally had a problem with you (and tried to talk to you about it) andeven attempt clear things up. Also this is kind of several months late.
I must have said this enough times recently, but airing every disagreement people have in public just looks poor.
A public apology is just as silly if you still refuse to contact the people who originally had a problem with you (and tried to talk to you about it) andeven attempt clear things up. Also this is kind of several months late.
Skype isn't only way to contact me, hell, my skype is Mostly for people I consider friends and then some other people who i may need to contact/or need to contact me for important things. I remove people who i otherwise don't consider friends nor need my skype for anything i see as important.
I'd like to point that it's not hard to message me on here, if you or anyone else wants to contact me.
Edit; whats wrong with not agreeing with what someone says? I thought people were allowed to agree/disagree with opinons, people agree/disagree in different ways.
Also, i posted this thread to apologise, not to lead into why i do or don't have contact with diffierent with people on skype.
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Synizta.
Twitter = @my3dSynizta
Last edited by Synizta; Thu, 23rd-Feb-2012 at 9:08 PM.
Edit; whats wrong with not agreeing with what someone says? I thought people were allowed to agree/disagree with opinons, people agree/disagree in different ways.
Also, i posted this thread to apologise, not to lead into why i do or don't have contact with diffierent with people on skype.
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Haven't had any personal issues with Synizta, I appreciate the intent of this thread, although without knowing any back story don't know if it is the most approparite action or not, so I'll leave it at that. Kudos for taking at least a solid first step to making amends with other individuals. Personally though, I think this comment above was a bit left field, and seems to just be trying to get into a defensive position. I don't think it's in response to anything that was actually said (at least in this thread), and I see it as detracting from the purpose of your thread.
I don't see Erasmus saying anything about how bad it is to disagree with someone. Erasmus is someone I've disagreed with in the past, and in spite of this (or perhaps because of) I have a very high level of respect for him. In all of my own experiences with him, a disagreement about a particular subject stays on that subject and has never (seemed) to become personal, which is rare with people. Again, I'm not aware of every detail, but I don't see Erasmus having a go at you for having a different opinion. Although, it should be said that opinions CAN be right or wrong by the way - claiming your view is an opinion doesn't automatically justify your holding them.
I do hope you do take it to PMs and sort it out with him.
Since you're going to keep trying to push things over onto my side in public:
1. You communicate with me for weeks on skype.
2. You decide to announce you are dropping commitments on people and refusing to discuss the way you did it.
3. I receive other complaints about you from numerous people.
4. I try to continue discussing these issues on skype.
5. You block me on skype and don't make any other attempt at communication to try and resolve any issues.
6. You try to make a 'public apology' to get support rather than make any attempt to actually resolve anything.
It is not my role to keep trying to pressure you into coming back when you made it clear you didn't want to resolve any issues and were just going to leave. If you desperately want to come back, you should really attempt to clear things up with the people involved, not just make a public post and hope people like it.
Since you're going to keep trying to push things over onto my side in public:
1. You communicate with me for weeks on skype.
2. You decide to announce you are dropping commitments on people and refusing to discuss the way you did it.
3. I receive other complaints about you from numerous people.
4. I try to continue discussing these issues on skype.
5. You block me on skype and don't make any other attempt at communication to try and resolve any issues.
6. You try to make a 'public apology' to get support rather than make any attempt to actually resolve anything.
It is not my role to keep trying to pressure you into coming back when you made it clear you didn't want to resolve any issues and were just going to leave. If you desperately want to come back, you should really attempt to clear things up with the people involved, not just make a public post and hope people like it.
Im not going to engage in this, I'll just sound like a hippocyrte infront of everyone if i do, probably more so i have at diffierent stages already.
So im going to ask, if you want to discuss it, message me, otherwise please stop.
As i said, i posted this to apologise to the community, not engage in arugements.
If your intention is to come back as a member of ToR, it should be your responsibility to get in touch with us and discuss the issues surrounding your departure, not ours to chase you up yet again.
I don't think anyone can blame someone for blocking Erasmus on skype though
Del, please do not start any Erasmus bashing. He's an awesome guy and he just express his opinion whatever it is "trendy" or not, witch is a great quality.
I know some people begin to have a grudge against him, don't encourage it or participate please, it won't do any good to anyone because Erasmus is right to express his opinion freely and has always done so respectfully enough.
As for Synizta, now you have made a public thread about problems most of us don't know about, you can't just ignore Erasmus trying to solve it. Skype is probably the best way to communicate easily, so just solve it now. If you're too angry to discuss directly with Erasmus, ask a neutral person to participate in the discussion and help solve the problem. If you wanted that staying under the carpet, you should not have made a public thread. Now it's too late to let it there, you have to settle it.
Del, please do not start any Erasmus bashing. He's an awesome guy and he just express his opinion whatever it is "trendy" or not, witch is a great quality.
I know some people begin to have a grudge against him, don't encourage it or participate please, it won't do any good to anyone because Erasmus is right to express his opinion freely and has always done so respectfully enough.
As for Synizta, now you have made a public thread about problems most of us don't know about, you can't just ignore Erasmus trying to solve it. Skype is probably the best way to communicate easily, so just solve it now. If you're too angry to discuss directly with Erasmus, ask a neutral person to participate in the discussion and help solve the problem. If you wanted that staying under the carpet, you should not have made a public thread. Now it's too late to let it there, you have to settle it.
Not ignoring it, traded a couple PM's back & forth on here.
Which should lead to hopefully any remaining problems HOPEFULLY being resolved in some form or another.
Oh dear.... this thread looks like its going to derail rather quickly which is unfortunate.
I would just like to say that Syn is the reason I got into ToR and into my first BSG and for that I am grateful. I am unaware of the issues that is being discussed but I am glad to have crossed paths with him or I would never have found my way into this community. I had to say this as my experience was always positive and never really had the chance to thank him for it.
Im sure we all have our differences and with what little experience I have had in this community I do know that this thread probably isnt going to be the best way to resolve any issues. We all love the eDrama!
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