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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 12:32 AM BnetId: SCWarrior.110  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 10 # 1
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Hello

Firstly i want to point out that i didnt really know how to name this thread, so if im out of line then sorry in advanced, im new to all this online forum stuff and so on, my goal is to help others and by showing them how i did things maybe it may help them also.

I thought I might make a post/thread to help out the newer people by adding perhaps some of my views and outlays on how i had improved in SC2. As i hope this will help out alot of the new comers to the SC2 gaming community.

I beleive if you want to get better in SC2 and like EVERYTHING ELSE! it requires you to learn the fundamentals and basics of gameplay.
im not going to go to far into depth here, but the message im trying to get across is simple, so follow these steps...

1. Research into the 3 different types of races - Terran, Zerg and Protoss. read websites and forums to learn all the pro's and con's of all 3 races and pick which one that best suites you.
2. Then go to these 2 different websites http://day9.tv or http://blip.tv/day9tv & http://www.youtube.com/user/SC2NoobSchool - These websites will get you started on understanding the basics and fundamentals that you need.
3. Ask around on sc2sea.com on forums for help this will leed you to meet new people. Dont be shy to ask on sc2sea.com - I had asked and got loads of help.
4. In the Bronze, Silver or Gold level, ask for some FREE coaching from a Platnum or higher player. There are people out there that will help coach you for a few sessions to help get you off, on the right foot.
5. Then once you have done steps from 1 through to 4, the 5th step is easy... watch streams and start laddering or play with practice partners. I was told from someone that you should spend your time as follows, 25% watching streams and 75% ladder/practicing

One thing i would like to note also, stats dont mean anything in the lower stages, i actually beleive you should never judge from stats, i know alot of famous athletes around the world with really bad stats but they are still the best at what they do. What i mean is if you win look at replay, if you loose look at replay, because what your looking for is stuff for yourself to improve on. Any progamer will tell you that, you can also learn things from games you won just as much as games you have lost. for example i have seen alot of people say "I dont need to work on my TvZ because i have a 80% win ratio" WRONG ATTITUDE!
I have won alot of games where i absolutely crushed my opponents, but when i look at my replays i would notice things like, im too over saturated in my main i didnt transfer my workers properly, or when i attacked i didnt structure my units properly before the engagement,or i didnt really have strong map control.
The chances are the opponent i was playing was perhaps working on something that they needed to be working on to get better for themselves.

If your laddering, DONT CHEESE ! this will hurt you in the long run. It maybe true that yes you move up higher in the rankings, but from what i have been told is, it will only get you so far! And then you are going to have to learn what you should of learnt in the first place, HOW TO PLAY PROPERLY!
and you would of wasted all this time cheesing people then find out later it doesnt work. YES you will be cheesed on too and YES there will be times where they just blind all in you, but one thing i was told and its very true, at the lower levels of laddering, your opponents that are cheesing you are probably not doing it properly anyways, so sometimes just hang in there and try and defend and come back for the win. If you loose so what, if you win good at least you will know what to look for next time round and so on.
I myself very rarely ever loose to cheese, i think i got good at this skill from all the cheesing i was always copping, lol.

Last thing is etiquette, should always be well mannered in everything, people will make you mad and upset to try and put you down either after you win or loose a game it happens to everyone i beleive, unfortunetely there are people out there that play just to try and make others miserable, just be polite ignore it and move on, if you get them again use this to your advantage, what i do is try and compare it to a cheese build or some silly all in, when i see them trash talking or what ever, they are trying to do to upset you, is to focus even harder on getting your build order right and try to hit your timings and play the game as normal, turn those distractions into obstacles this helps on building your mental thoughts up. i beleive that if someone cant beat you the chances are is that they are going to try and distract you in other ways by tormenting you and so on to try get you off your game.
I used to play basketball and we called this trash talking, it was another way to get a player off his game by saying random stuff at him and the whole point of this was to get them angry and frustrated to the point where he couldnt concentrate and play his game.
ALWAYS GG !

Anyhow i hope this will help all you new comers out there and also helps you to further enjoy you game play on SC2. everything that i have mentioned above is what i did and still doing.
i have had to take like almost taken 2 months off due to health problems but im aiming to be gold before next season.

Scwarrior

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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 3:39 AM BnetId: lolwut 901  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: wellington new zealand  Total Posts Made: 298 # 2
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Your not out of line posting this. This is a good thread helping players in the community. +1
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 7:35 AM BnetId: iVnStandard.354  Race: Clan: iVn  Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 259 # 3
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nice write up man : )

im not new to competitive gaming, but i am new to sc2... why do most players make a big deal about always saying 'gg' at the end of the game?

when i don't 'gg' its more out of forgetfulness than anything else... i understand that its manner and everything which is good, but i can't really see how saying gg regardless if you were frustrated or happy at the end of the game has got something to do with improving.
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 7:40 AM BnetId: TAsivvon.369  Race: Clan: TA  Location: QLD  Total Posts Made: 126 # 4
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i always gg in tournaments but only gg on ladder if it was a good game.
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 8:14 AM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 5
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nice write up man : )

im not new to competitive gaming, but i am new to sc2... why do most players make a big deal about always saying 'gg' at the end of the game?

when i don't 'gg' its more out of forgetfulness than anything else... i understand that its manner and everything which is good, but i can't really see how saying gg regardless if you were frustrated or happy at the end of the game has got something to do with improving.
If you've played any other sport at any stage in your life, "gg" is like shaking hands at the end of the match.
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 8:28 AM BnetId: Rythos.198  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 75 # 6
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The "gg vs no gg" debate has been done to death. Let's not do that again.

I heartily endorse discussing the rest of the post though
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 8:42 AM BnetId: iVnStandard.354  Race: Clan: iVn  Location: Brisbane  Total Posts Made: 259 # 7
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If you've played any other sport at any stage in your life, "gg" is like shaking hands at the end of the match.
im aware... what im wondering though is why players tend to talk about it in 'guides to improve' like its meant to help them get better at the game.

but yeah it seems like these conversions have been had before so ima let it be ^__^
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 9:40 AM BnetId: TABottles.446  BattleTag: 6589  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Tasmania, Australia  Total Posts Made: 430 # 8
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Thanks for the reminder Also, with the gg's I almost always do it. Lately i've made it a habit of dropping the f-bomb followed by a gg wp. A little weird.
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 11:08 AM BnetId: SCWarrior.110  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 10 # 9
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If you've played any other sport at any stage in your life, "gg" is like shaking hands at the end of the match.
This is how i picture the GG also!
My intentions were ment that if you dont GG you wont get better and if you do GG you will.
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 11:09 AM BnetId: LOORDO.910  Race: Location: Brisbane, Australia.  Total Posts Made: 59 # 10
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Don't really see how it correlates.

Idra is terribly BM and often doesn't GG.
Yet he's one of the best (if not the best?) foreign Zergs in the world ^.^

Not gonna debate this any further though as it is nottttttttttt worth it
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Unread Wed, 15th-Feb-2012, 12:57 PM BnetId: ETLBranno.200  Race: Location: brisbane, australia  Total Posts Made: 103 # 11
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it really just depends on your mindset. if you just think of it as practice and not as though you are playing another person then saying GG is useless.

i think that's the best i can explain it but there is more to it but really who gives a shit, just do whatever works for you.
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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 6:46 AM BnetId: neon.457  Race: Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 146 # 12
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and here I was hoping it'd be a thread about how to be EXCL my fellow Tasmanian from clan FaDe!

Nice write up though, even if it's not as handy as being Ash
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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 2:51 PM BnetId: MilkyMan.878  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 31 # 13
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Idra is terribly BM and often doesn't GG.
Yet he's one of the best (if not the best?) foreign Zergs in the world ^.^
He is one of the best zerg's in the world, but he isn't getting any better. The obstacle allowing him to go forward is himself.

He leaves games early, he smack talks about how op other races are, he always talks about how bad his opponent is. But with if he were to have a bit more respect for his oppositions then he would probably be so much better because then he won't take his opponents so likely.
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