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fray`iaguz · Sat, 2nd-Mar-2013, 8:45 PM

Note, this is a collaborative effort between me and Tgun. We take full responsibility if this accusation turns out to be unfounded and would hope that you would all trust us not to come to a conclusion on this sort of matter lightly.

In the ACL Online Round 2 that I played today I played one game against Sensei. He did a peculiar build that I recalled having played against a while ago on the North American ladder, but was being performed by MYiShinya. After this game, Sensei forfeit against me and left the tournament abruptly. Being curious I opened up both replays to note the similarities between their builds, and also noticed that their hotkeys were also the same.

For reference, Shinya uses these hotkeys
1: scouting probe/army
2: nexus's
3: gateways/warpgates
4: aditional production
0: nexus's

I currently have 2 replays from both me and HuT against shinya on NA ladder and these are the hotkeys he uses. These are the same used against me, Delete and HuT in ACL OR 2. They are all ShinyA's hotkey set up. I have the replays provided.

Piqued, I went to find more Shinya and sensei replays. Fenner supplied me with one from patch 1.4.3 almost a year ago against sensei. Sensei uses these hotkeys

1: Nexus's
2: Production
3-5: Army.

Compare those to recent replays from SEACL 3, Tier 3. Sensei vs Tragic hero where he is still using the same hotkey scheme months afterwards, and very recently. They are also the same replays Sensei uses in ACL OR 1, from these replays against Pezz and DevianT.

The only conclusion that me and Tgun can arrive to is that ShinyA was playing on Sensei's account for the ACL Online Round 2.

ALL REPLAYS LABELLED AND IN THIS LINK

http://www.mediafire.com/?83lfu3hsgj0ul

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	xGKingSatu:	Yay drama
	nirvAnA:	Thanks for bringing this to light guys.
	Dox:	it's not drama ~_~

**Baldie** · Sat, 2nd-Mar-2013, 8:45 PM

ACLPro was made aware of the claims regarding SenSei this afternoon and has been looking into the situation internally. A final verdict will be made as soon as appropriate. The decisions made by ACLPro will not be based on that of the community. However we will consider looking into any further evidence put forward. Due to the serious nature of this, ACLPro will not make a decision until it has considered all options.

**iM tgun** · Sat, 2nd-Mar-2013, 8:46 PM

Confirming that I'm also responsible. I also urge anyone to review the evidence before making their own claims / supporting us or trying to tell us we're wrong.

Av.RuineD · Sat, 2nd-Mar-2013, 8:51 PM

"iM tgun
I am the LAW!"

aka iMtheLAW

TACosmic · Sat, 2nd-Mar-2013, 9:25 PM

well played shinya big frags there taking out kingkong 2-1 instant fan

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	nirvAnA:	Yea lets ignore the fact he smurfed on your clan mates account? Obv skill > values!
	NvRossi:	obvious troll mr nirvana

pX.PLoTTeL · Sat, 2nd-Mar-2013, 11:21 PM

If this is found to be the case, will Sensei also face disciplinary action? Is there any way to prove he gave shinya consent or will he be able to play this off as a random hack?

mcaspook · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 12:01 AM

Sensei is in MYI afaik (same team) correct me if i am wrong.
EDIT: i think the most important thing here is that this toss has 1 army hotkey and is fairly high ranked. Protoss.................

**iM tgun** · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plottel

If this is found to be the case, will Sensei also face disciplinary action? Is there any way to prove he gave shinya consent or will he be able to play this off as a random hack?

Sensei is also be in question here. We believe he played the OR1 qualifiers (as seen in the replay / hotkey analysis) and that Shinya played on his account for OR2.

fray`fenner · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plottel

If this is found to be the case, will Sensei also face disciplinary action? Is there any way to prove he gave shinya consent or will he be able to play this off as a random hack?

He is known to have shared his account with Shinya before, for previous tournaments.

Yeah spook they're on the same team (NA clan) and both good friends.

jayaiwhy · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 1:04 AM

yolo

moar drama

iM SundeR: solid contribution to the thread!
Original post edited, would've been already banned if all I said was yolo.

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	mcaspook:	confirmed hacker who needs proof
	iM tgun:	Proof, please.
	iM SundeR:	solid contribution to the thread!

Lokth · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 2:22 AM

/popcorn

on a more serious note, If proven guilty I hope this would result in a permanent ban from all other future acl events; hate people who do things like this.

**nirvAnA** · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 3:00 AM

I'm wondering....why didn't Shinya just play on his own account? I thought ACL was open to all of SEA this time around?

update: ty guys, my bad for some reason i thought he was from HK

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	jayaiwhy:	I always thought Shinya lived in US .___.
	Baldie:	ACL is still only AUS/NZ for SC2

fray`fenner · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

I'm wondering....why didn't Shinya just play on his own account? I thought ACL was open to all of SEA this time around?

He's American

mcaspook · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 3:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirvAnA

I'm wondering....why didn't Shinya just play on his own account? I thought ACL was open to all of SEA this time around?

its only open to ANZ

FaZe · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fray`fenner

He is known to have shared his account with Shinya before, for previous tournaments.

Yeah spook they're on the same team (NA clan) and both good friends.

SenSei isn't on MYi anymore.

He used to be, but the team has since parted ways with him.

ACLPro, we want to work with you on this - even if SenSei isn't on the team, any involvement from any of our players in account sharing is completely unacceptable.

NXZ · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 4:42 AM

Yeah when iaguz initially brought this up with delete and I, we were certainly a little curious. Out of practice and in tier 3 of seacl suddenly beats delete and kingkong and then forfeits. I had 2 shinya reps from about a month ago and opened them up and found out he used the hotkeys mentioned by iaguz above. These were identical to the hotkeys sensei used against delete. Especially considering that shinya has a very unique style that sensei seemingly was replicating it seemed very suspicious. It is sad to see that there was more evidence of him smurfing.

Now I won't say that sensei and shinya are 100% smurfing but at this point it seems very likely and I feel bad for all the players who were knocked out by him, potentially ruining their chances of qualifying for acl.

**Dox** · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 5:59 AM

SenSei confirmed a few months ago (GGA Cup qualifiers) that he was no longer the owner of the account. The new owner gave me the following details:

MYi.Shinya
Song Chen
sc2classic@gmail.com

iM MaFia · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 7:20 AM

Should get the Perth ASG hardies on this one.

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ArcMSi.Rogue:

Anything involving facts is a bit advanced for AsGHardies

**iM tgun** · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaZe

SenSei isn't on MYi anymore.

He used to be, but the team has since parted ways with him.

ACLPro, we want to work with you on this - even if SenSei isn't on the team, any involvement from any of our players in account sharing is completely unacceptable.

Work with them? I'll tell you this. Shinya played in OR2 for their qualifiers without notifying anyone, whilst Sensei played in OR1 for the qualifiers..

iM SundeR · Sun, 3rd-Mar-2013, 11:00 AM

ACL shouldn't 'work with anyone', information like this should be given to them and then they decide internally. Don't muddy the waters with anyone else, it was an ACL tournament and they have 100% power and should not be influenced.

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ArcMSi.Rogue:

well said davey