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Old Tue, 26th-Feb-2013, 12:20 AM BnetId: [OS]Nameless.433  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 35 # 1
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[SG] OGM SCII:HotS Rumble@Colosseum

ATTENTION ALL SC2 PLAYERS IN SINGAPORE!

OGM is proud to announce that we are hosting the VERY FIRST EVER 1v1 Heart of the Swarm OFFLINE Tournament in Singapore in March 2013!

Proudly presenting OGM SCII:HotS Rumble@Colosseum!

General Information
Date: 21-22 March 2013 (March Holidays FTW)
Time: 11am - 5pm SGT on both days
Location: Colosseum, Bugis+
Registration Fees: $10

Open Category
Total Players: 16
Qualifications: Anyone can join
Format: Group Stage followed by Double Elimination

BSGPD Category
Total Players: 16
Qualifications: Only Diamond League and below
Format: Group Stage followed by Double Elimination

Prize Pool

Open Category
Champion: 1 x SteelSeries QcK Barbarian Edition, 1 x $20 Colosseum Party Pack Voucher, 1 x $30 voucher sponsored by Xmashed Gear
First Runner Up: 1 x $20 Colosseum Party Pack Voucher

BSGPD Category
Champion: 1 x SteelSeries QcK Barbarian Edition, 1 x $20 Colosseum Party Pack Voucher, 1 x $30 voucher sponsored by Xmashed Gear
First Runner Up: 2 x $10 Colosseum Party Pack Voucher

All participants will also receive a "Buy 1 hour and Get 1 hour Free" Voucher sponsored by Colosseum just for taking part

There will also be a lucky draw for everyone who's attending the event as we have 30 x 10% Discount Vouchers sponsored by Xmashed Gear to giveaway

NO HOTS ACCOUNTS? NO PROBLEM. We have free accounts for you to use for the duration of the tournament!

So what are you waiting for? To register, send an email to onlygamingmatters@gmail.com stating your:

Full Name
SC2 IGN
Race
League in WoL
Contact (preferably email AND mobile phone)

Also, special thanks to Colosseum for allowing us to use their lan shop as location for a discounted rate. eSports SG and sc2sea for helping us with the publicity and Xmashed Gear for sponsoring us with the lucky draw vouchers for the event.

THE SWARM IS COMING...
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Old Tue, 26th-Feb-2013, 1:02 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: eehanProAnnn.969  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 632 # 2
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Are there any prizes?

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Old Tue, 26th-Feb-2013, 11:07 AM BnetId: Lobo.464  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 35 # 3
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Old Tue, 26th-Feb-2013, 11:28 AM BnetId: aGGeneratioN.775  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 164 # 4
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wish i could go... T.T
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Old Tue, 26th-Feb-2013, 1:06 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: FlashDrake.254  Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 155 # 5
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Old Tue, 26th-Feb-2013, 5:29 PM BnetId: EveParachute.918  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 82 # 6
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I think it would be a good idea to expand the number of available slots for the open category as most likely HOTS will bring back some of the older players into the scene!
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Old Mon, 4th-Mar-2013, 8:25 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: FlashRevz.721  Race: Clan: Flash  Location: Emoland, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 466 # 7
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Why not 23th and 24th March? :/ Pretty sure more people would be able to attend, then.
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Old Mon, 4th-Mar-2013, 8:42 PM BnetId: youngseok990 (steam)  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 600 # 8
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Why not 23th and 24th March? :/ Pretty sure more people would be able to attend, then.
Yeah, agree with Rev. A weekend would be much better, as some people have NS or go to international school or whatnot.
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Old Tue, 5th-Mar-2013, 12:54 PM BnetId: aGGeneratioN.775  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 164 # 9
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i agree with the 23-24 march too~~~ ^.^
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Old Wed, 6th-Mar-2013, 6:37 PM BnetId: [OS]Nameless.433  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 35 # 10
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Why not 23th and 24th March? :/ Pretty sure more people would be able to attend, then.
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Yeah, agree with Rev. A weekend would be much better, as some people have NS or go to international school or whatnot.
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i agree with the 23-24 march too~~~ ^.^
Hey guys. We are taking your suggestions into serious consideration. We'll make an announcement regarding updates for the tournament soon. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old Sun, 10th-Mar-2013, 10:24 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: FlashRevz.721  Race: Clan: Flash  Location: Emoland, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 466 # 11
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Hey guys. We are taking your suggestions into serious consideration. We'll make an announcement regarding updates for the tournament soon. Thanks for the feedback.
I'll just leave the feedback here instead of putting on OGM's facebook page.

To be honest, it's a tournament that's not well thought out.

1. A tournament date set on weekdays, isolating out the NSmen, adults and other students not having a student break, Really?

2. A registration fee is declared before the prize pool/expected prize pool; I don't think I need to elaborate on this.

3. A 16people Open Bracket? Starcraft2 tournaments usually have around >30 people, depending on prize pool.

It's a great initiative on OGM's part, but for wanting to utilize the fact that this is "VERY FIRST EVER HotS tournament", it's seems to be a rather lacklustre one.

P.S. I'm sorry for sounding harsh, but somebody has to say it.

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the guys are already taking into consideration your ideas, not sure why the sarcastic/harsh tone
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Old Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 9:57 PM Total Posts Made: 13 # 12
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Hi Revenant, I am newnar, head of General Administration for OGM and I am here to respond to the comments and address some misconceptions the community at sc2sea might have about our Rumble@Colosseum tournament. I am sorry for making this a really long post but this is already my maximum capability to be concise.

Firstly, let me thank you for your professional feedback and your overvaluation of OGM's operational capability as well as amount of resources. As much as we hope and want to fulfill the aspects you have pointed out, we are in several ways, unable to do so due to myriad of reasons. I will explain more further down.

Next, I would like to clarify on the nature of our tournament as well as our organization. OGM is a very young non-profit organization that is completely fan-based and grassroots-minded. Our goal is to make participants and spectators of our events feel good, regardless of whether they win or lose. The group was started on a notion that it really sucked as an average SCII fan to join a tournament for a small sum of money, play 2 games, get knocked out, then leave without anymore participation. To us, it is SCII's pride and passion that fuels the community, and it is the community that upholds the entire game. We recognize that most of the community are amateur players or casual players and they are actually the ones who are actually supporting the game to grow and prosper. They are our focus. To create a player and spectator-friendly tournament/event environment is our goal. To sift out pros from the community or to hold giant tournaments with very high prize pools that are more competitive in nature, that to us, is secondary. Please do not misunderstand this as we hate SCII high-level play or professionals with high standards, it is that we recognize the fact that usually these communities are already very well established and stable on their own. OGM stems from necessity and thus this necessity has brought us to Rumble@Colosseum. Rumble@Colosseum is OGM's first offline tournament. The focus of the tournament is to advocate and put into practice OGM's concept. Therefore, it is really focused mainly on amateurs and maybe semi-pros. We are trying to use the launch of HotS to revitalize what we think is a dying Singapore SCII community. This is something that pains us to see and we will do anything that we believe will work to establish the amateur community. Having explained this, I will now address each of your suggestions separately.

1. The tournament was set on a weekday not because we totally forgot that NSFs or adults will be working on that day. This is entirely due to budget constraints. In fact, the $10 registration fee is 100% paid to the venue vendor, and absolutely 0% taken into prize pool or our own pockets. With what choices we had, Colosseum was already friendly enough to offer us a discounted price to hold our tournament on a weekday during the school holidays, which I understand is the period most of their revenue stems from. We could have put it on the weekends, but the registration fee for the competition will have to be increased by a sizable amount. Barrier to entry is a big thing for us because we want to keep Rumble@Colosseum close to the grassroots, close to those who aren't sponsored and close to those who still love the game even if they don't play very well. We decided in the end that to keep the price down for those who can make it, we have really no choice but to put it on a weekday.

2. For this, I personally apologize deeply. The prize pool is something that we had a lot of trouble with because of 2 things: 1) We are not under any direct sponsorship and are therefore very limited on funds. Registration fee, as said above, accounts for 0% of the prize pool. 2) We do NOT want a large cash prize to attract only the extremely high-end players, who will unknowingly yet definitely knock out the weaker amateurs. We understand that this is not the pros fault, but we want the absolute best experience even for the worst players. Simply loving the game regardless of how well you do in it means more to us than anything. Even with the above reasons, I agree that there is no excuse for taking so long to confirm the prize pool. That is indeed a lack in our operations and thus my sincere apology. You will be happy to hear that in my response to your comments, we will be announcing the prize pool very soon(either tonight or tomorrow) on our FB page.

3. As for why the number of participants are limited to 16 per competition group, it is simply because of our relatively small operational capacity. As I have stated above in the second paragraph, we are a young organization without proper funding or sponsorship. It is difficult but we will never give up on what we think we should do for the community but there is a limit to what we can perform physically. We don't have a large crew of 20, 30 people nor do we have the reach to be confident enough to assure our venue vendor that we are able to get so many to sign up such that the registration fees could pay for the cost. You could say that it is our incapability but we have no other way to respond except to agree. OGM has been working in the past months in the absolute red with our own core members putting our own money into the competitions that we have set up. Most of the time, it can't be helped, and instead of sacrificing the community's faith in us, we choose to sacrifice our own wealth. I am not asking for pity here, I am simply hoping to attain some general respect for us who are using our own time and actual money to help a community we all care about so much.

To us, community is number one, competitiveness is number two. We call Rumble@Colosseum the first ever offline HotS tournament in Singapore because, yeah, technically it is the first, there isn't one before it. If you want to call it lackluster because it isn't shining off esports stardom or it doesn't have a great prize pool and a huge cup with big name sponsors like Alienware or Razer or because it's not held in a grand enough location like Expo, we concur. It is definitely lackluster by this comparison, because we are not an organization being treated with similar luster, we are just a bunch of normal gamers who just CANNOT BEAR TO SEE SCII COMMUNITY SHRINKING IN SINGAPORE.

I am sorry for the long wall of text, I am not very eloquent or concise and I am sorry for being so. If anything above has offended anybody in any way, I am, again, sorry for saying things in such ways. Revenant, I love SCII and I love how you play, you are an awesome SCII player and one of the brightest stars in the Singapore esports community. I really thank you for giving us such insightful advice coming from a standpoint as experienced as yours -- discussing them opened us up to things we never thought about and helped us establish ourselves more solidly. I hope what I have said above will help clarify some doubts or misconceptions about us and Rumble@Colosseum. If you still think of OGM as being irresponsible or under-performing after reading, then again, I have no choice but to say that I am truly sorry, this is the absoulte BEST that we can do. And be sure that whatever happens, we will continue to do our BEST because our resolve doesn't falter easily.

Lastly, I promise to all those in Singapore who play SCII (and those who don't, we're growing the community remember?) that Rumble@Colosseum will be NOTHING like you have ever experienced in ANY tournament, SCII or not. We have truly gathered all that we can muster, all that we think will make Rumble@Colosseum completely different in terms of event experience for the player and even non-paying spectators. So even if you don't have money to sign up, or have friends like that, just come down on that day and we ASSURE you that you will NOT be left out of any of the fun and EVERYONE will get to live in the joy of SCII gameplay. Things we have planned out are never-before-seen in any gaming event. And if you have signed up, please try to get more of your friends sign up as well. We are doing a little something special for the winners out of our own pockets and we hope that everyone will love it.

Sorry for taking your time.

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P.S. Please don't misinterpret this message as OGM Ruble@Colosseum shutting its doors to pros. In fact, we invite all Grandmasters and above professionals to come down to mingle with your fans, to help build awareness of SCII by showcasing your skills and much more activities such as offering on-the-spot coaching advice to fellow players of lower caliber. Support the community effort like a real Pro!

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Old Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 11:08 PM BnetId: YourFather  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 94 # 13
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Old Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 11:16 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: eehanProAnnn.969  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 632 # 14
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I'm platinium in HOTS now, can i join the BSGP one?
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Old Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 11:27 PM BnetId: [OS]Nameless.433  Race: Clan: OS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 35 # 15
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I'm platinium in HOTS now, can i join the BSGP one?
LOLOLOLOL. Oh you...

But seriously, we want this tournament to be fun as well as playable for everyone so we'll stick to your league in WoL for a better gauge of your skill level.
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Old Tue, 12th-Mar-2013, 11:45 PM Total Posts Made: 13 # 16
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Hi ProAnn, we would be extremely honored if you could come for the event. Whether or not you participate in the actual competition is entirely up to you, but your presence at the event itself would already be of great aid to us and to our community. If you don't mind, may I invite you to participate in some activities during the Rumble@Colosseum event outside of the main tourney to help grow SCII's player base? Things that probably only players of your skill level is able to perform.
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Hi ProAnn, we would be extremely honored if you could come for the event. Whether or not you participate in the actual competition is entirely up to you, but your presence at the event itself would already be of great aid to us and to our community. If you don't mind, may I invite you to participate in some activities during the Rumble@Colosseum event outside of the main tourney to help grow SCII's player base? Things that probably only players of your skill level is able to perform.
So honoured. Will be there, i registered for the open liao mah. Got see my email?
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Yeap got it. Help us spread the word! There are still lots of slots left!
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I think its a really good initiative for you guys to start building up the "non-pro" community from HOTS launch, it's usually this group of people that are neglected/forgotten after the game gets established with its core players. More respectably, you guys are putting in your own money and effort for this non profitable cause of building up the community. Though i think maybe you could link up or get some feedback/tips from other organisers in Singapore(Eg EsportsSG) for the initial planning/organisation stages

Those important points mentioned are relevant though its quite disheartening to see the sarcastic/harsh tone used against you guys. Don't worry too much about that, there are lots of other gamers who would appreciate your passion and dedication for organising this tournament. Looking forward to the never before seen stuffs that's gonna happen in your competition man
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