[asdfSchnitzel]

Yoon, i feel so sorry for you =(. People like Gus shouldn't have any reputation in the community anymore. What if Yoon had won the qualifer and gone on to win IPL4? Although it seems unlikely, it could've happened, but these scum stopped it in its tracks.

[TeZzA]

Very sad to see this happen. Glad that they are copping alot of shit though. Has been a mockery of an event.

[TABjornbrandr]

I'm not even remotely an influential person in starcraft in SEA, I'm just a run of the mill player, but this sort of thing just makes me completely dumbfounded.
From the point of view of a community, this is disgraceful. Placing personal monetary gain above all else is pathetic and should be condemned.
From a business point of view, this is shooting SEA eSports in the foot and is an idiotic approach to the fullest degree.
I'm sorry to hear about how fucked over everyone is from this wanker's actions, hopefully Yoon gets some sort of explanation and Dox can demolish this ****** as soon as possible. I certainly would welcome it asap.
Props to GLaDe for thinking about fellow SEA players, as well.

[dippa]

Gus is giving a statement live on stream right now.

[dippa]

Statement makes no mention of Yoon and no mention of the missing money that S2 Games put forward for the HON event.

Hopefully there'll be a fuller statement after the event.

[NvJazBas]

Can anyone(Korean) translate what YYJ wrote word for word into PlayXP site? I would like to but you can only write on the site if you have a Korean account(I don't think TW account works either.) or if you have active mobile phone in Korea that you check confirmation.
It seems that the thread about PPSL in PlayXP site is wrongly informed as many LoF clan people and NEXSickness himself are writing in that thread to defend AZK, saying that many of those such as Sickness taking YYJ's spot are just a rumour and they want the thread deleted immediately. I think that they should know what YYJ's thoughts and what he exprienced word for word.

I am very disgusted by Gus' action and really feel for Yoon. If I was him I could not have been able to take the trash from Gus with such a professionalism.

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	TAkrunch:
	ToR.Arnor:	Good idea! maybe someone from SPR can help?
	nirvAnA:	go SPR, save YOON!!!
	SungInSPR:	Yes! we are trying our best! @_@
	asdfSchnitzel:

[soulmanfOu]

what the hell? YYJ is y cant going ppl? so badly --

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	Maynarde:
	ToR.Arnor:	Agreed :)
	nirvAnA:	so cute
	TADivinity:	hear hear

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by soulmanfOu

what the hell? YYJ is y cant going ppl? so badly --

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Paroxysm]

They way in which YYJ handled this situation is amazing to say the least. He has presented a great construction of a SEA player, and this could ultimately be beneficial to the SEA e-sports in the long run, despite his initial loss.

I am deeply disgusted knowing that such injustice has occurred, but the only way you can overcome this is to play harder, better, faster, stronger and pretty much annihilate them in any tournament you see . I wish you the best of luck YYJ, again, you handled this incredibly well, and good things will more than likely be coming your way soon.

Paroxysm.

[yongming]

Originally Posted by xGKingJazBas

Can anyone(Korean) translate what YYJ wrote word for word into PlayXP site? I would like to but you can only write on the site if you have a Korean account(I don't think TW account works either.) or if you have active mobile phone in Korea that you check confirmation.
It seems that the thread about PPSL in PlayXP site is wrongly informed as many LoF clan people and NEXSickness himself are writing in that thread to defend AZK, saying that many of those such as Sickness taking YYJ's spot are just a rumour and they want the thread deleted immediately. I think that they should know what YYJ's thoughts and what he exprienced word for word.

I am very disgusted by Gus' action and really feel for Yoon. If I was him I could not have been able to take the trash from Gus with such a professionalism.

was finding out how to post an article but saw this http://www.playxp.com/sc2/global/vie...cle_id=3561685.

sickness seems to have some replies in that thread

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NvJazBas:

yea this is the thread I was talking about. I already put a reply in the thread. Some LoF clan people were kind of defending the AZK's side

[hmst]

Dear SEA Community

I'd like to bring forward a couple of things concerning this situation and the criticism received.

First off, I am not speaking on behalf of any of the AZK team members or management. I know some of their clan members personally and I am friends with them, and have been talking to them about recent events.

They are all in distress. Many of the clan members had no idea about the scams, shame and controversial acts that took place behind their backs. Many of their members expected that of which was told to them, a tournament consisting of the best SEA players paired with some top pro Koreans. They had no idea about what AZK's management did to achieve such a goal as well...

Although what really shook me up while talking to one of them was his concern with the reputation of the players of AZK themselves. Almost none of the members of the team actually were aware of the events their manager Gus had been involved in, and what so called treachery he had committed towards the entire Starcraft 2 community. All they did was look up to him to provide for the team in hopes of becoming a well known and respected clan in SEA. Then when this happens, and suddenly the world turns against Team AZK, they feel extremely distressed not only because such a reputation has been given to the team, but the players feel that they are being blamed as well. Because the scams and such are depicted as 'Team AZK's' fault, or further flame such as 'Team AZK is a terrible team', the players feel as if they are being blamed for the entirety of the scams, and worst of all, some players are starting to believe that it is their fault as well, and as such, are questioning team commitments and total separation.

Now I am aware that some AZK members aren't on the top of the list of the friendliest Starcraft 2 players, but i know a handful of them, and they are extremely nice and friendly people, who are now shook up and lost entirely given the present situation. The players just did as their management told them to, and up until the current events, thought that the management was doing nothing wrong.

The players are also extremely sorry about your situation YoonYJ, and I know one of them that was even extremely eager to meet you. They had no idea about that such a breach, and they all feel betrayed and lost, and they all hope that they will still have a place in the Starcraft 2 SEA scene.

So I do ask you of the SEA community, a community of understanding, to just be aware of this, and maybe construct your posts with these facts in consideration.

I do feel what AZK management did was unacceptable and requires a formal apology if any condolences are to be made, but lets keep our fingers pointed toward them/him and maybe not towards the players themselves.

I post this not as an official statement from the team, nor as one of their members. I post this as a close friend of a couple of the AZK members, and do as for your consideration.

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	SLCN.Kez:	well said
	nirvAnA:
	wolf:	i dont know you, but i love you <3
	Nemo:	thanks :)
	Highlander:
	Mokss:	Thanks man. :)

[yongming]

@jazbas ah misread your post. well i have a legit bnet account on kr but someone else is using it currently. dont know when i can get hold of him. you might want to ask meatex. if he is still in kr, he should have an active mobile phone.

[ProAnnn]

Originally Posted by hmst

Dear SEA Community

I'd like to bring forward a couple of things concerning this situation and the criticism received.

First off, I am not speaking on behalf of any of the AZK team members or management. I know some of their clan members personally and I am friends with them, and have been talking to them about recent events.

They are all in distress. Many of the clan members had no idea about the scams, shame and controversial acts that took place behind their backs. Many of their members expected that of which was told to them, a tournament consisting of the best SEA players paired with some top pro Koreans. They had no idea about what AZK's management did to achieve such a goal as well...

Although what really shook me up while talking to one of them was his concern with the reputation of the players of AZK themselves. Almost none of the members of the team actually were aware of the events their manager Gus had been involved in, and what so called treachery he had committed towards the entire Starcraft 2 community. All they did was look up to him to provide for the team in hopes of becoming a well known and respected clan in SEA. Then when this happens, and suddenly the world turns against Team AZK, they feel extremely distressed not only because such a reputation has been given to the team, but the players feel that they are being blamed as well. Because the scams and such are depicted as 'Team AZK's' fault, or further flame such as 'Team AZK is a terrible team', the players feel as if they are being blamed for the entirety of the scams, and worst of all, some players are starting to believe that it is their fault as well, and as such, are questioning team commitments and total separation.

Now I am aware that some AZK members aren't on the top of the list of the friendliest Starcraft 2 players, but i know a handful of them, and they are extremely nice and friendly people, who are now shook up and lost entirely given the present situation. The players just did as their management told them to, and up until the current events, thought that the management was doing nothing wrong.

The players are also extremely sorry about your situation YoonYJ, and I know one of them that was even extremely eager to meet you. They had no idea about that such a breach, and they all feel betrayed and lost, and they all hope that they will still have a place in the Starcraft 2 SEA scene.

So I do ask you of the SEA community, a community of understanding, to just be aware of this, and maybe construct your posts with these facts in consideration.

I do feel what AZK management did was unacceptable and requires a formal apology if any condolences are to be made, but lets keep our fingers pointed toward them/him and maybe not towards the players themselves.

I post this not as an official statement from the team, nor as one of their members. I post this as a close friend of a couple of the AZK members, and do as for your consideration.

I think the name "AZK" have been ruined totally. I understand that not every single AZK members are as bad as ziek(zanoooooooku) / witchdoctor(GUSSSSS). But those 2 have totally ruined the name AZK enough. I would totally advice and recommend the remaining AZK players to quit AZK and form a new team so that they wouldnt be 'discriminated'.

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hmst:

i will certainly bring forth that suggestion to the teams members. Hopefully the community will still be able to accept them :D

[EveMassacrisM]

@hmst
It's sad but that's how it works. You can't expect people to condemn a fraction of your organization and be totally cool to the others because honestly, we don't give a ****. Zanooku has always been crap in our eyes. Gus has officially been another - a much larger and steamy pile of shit. And this has automagically made AZK a shithole. You can either stay there and see yourself becoming a part of them or leave.

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	wolf:	tut tut vic generalisations are bad mmmkay
	aLtShortizz:	harsh but i think its the truth

[Amornthep]

People like him are what gives Filipinos a bad name. Sadly, there are many people like this out there.

[hmst]

@EveMassacrisM

You are absolutely correct, and its that kind of attitude which is definitely promoting the idea of breaking off and starting another small team from scratch that is flourishing in some of their heads...would that be a good idea?

[ZraF]

@hmst I think the best move for players right now would be to leave the team, to preserve their reputation.

[SungInSPR]

SPR is trying to help YYJ in korean website @_@

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	yongming:	짱!
	nirvAnA:
	TAkrunch:	well someone wants some rep.... AND YOU GOT IT! =D =D
	dKiWi:
	Fadey:
	Dox:	i heart you

[Alderaan]

Originally Posted by ZraF

@hmst I think the best move for players right now would be to leave the team, to preserve their reputation.

It's not that simple. The thing is this - they might be contractually bound to AZK already? We don't know how AZK negotiated the deals with the players and they would be breaking a legally-binding contract if they did sign a contract.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by EveMassacrisM

@hmst
It's sad but that's how it works. You can't expect people to condemn a fraction of your organization and be totally cool to the others because honestly, we don't give a ****. Zanooku has always been crap in our eyes. Gus has officially been another - a much larger and steamy pile of shit. And this has automagically made AZK a shithole. You can either stay there and see yourself becoming a part of them or leave.

Let not be too hasty about all this. It is serious enough to let some time pass and especially the tournament to end to see how it resolve.

We need to know more about all what happened, if Gus will come and explain, if other players of AZK will give more infos. Let's wait for Rossi to tell us more after the tournament because he is there.

We have several sources (including Yoon) telling that a lot of AZK players are nice and respectable players, whatever organisation they are in now (and was thought to be respectable), that doesn't make them culprits instantly.

Yoon was wise enough to stay calm, let's follow his example and wait for more informations and explanations about this to ask people to take such decisions already. There might be other solutions to fix things.

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	nirvAnA:
	EveMassacrisM:	True. Though I don't believe AZK will be around for much longer.