The subject of Avant being able to retrieve all support as per 1.1.2, is only if ToR left the contract earlier than stipulated and without proper notice (not if Avant remove ToR).
Regardless, ToR cannot dispute whether or not they have left the team with or without proper notice because of 5.7. They could have done everything by the book and had that term considered breached.
That was one of the contracts given in negotiation that I was sent. I just got my hands on a newer version which looks equally ridiculous from skimming over it; I'll tell you whats wrong with it when I return from uni
I get the feeling that this is a result of many organisations around the world (and Australia) basically using kids and gamers as marketing slaves while they literally get nothing in return.
Being a part of a sponsored team does not automatically mean there has to be a huge divide between player and management. Look at a team like Axiom - I GUARANTEE that the players on that team are among the happiest in the world.
If the players want to get out of a contract and have a bad taste in their mouth - it's for a reason. You can't just hide behind the contract and say 'well this is a contract like it or not my organisation not yours sucked in buddy'.
There is no reason to feel this attitude towards other people in the Australian scene. Founding, managing or working for teams, in reality, does not elevate your social status, and it's a real shame that some peoples attitudes reflect this nonsense.
lol was this even proof read? there are so many tense, grammatical and wording errors for a binding document. Anyone who creates a contract should have at least some legality validation or endorsement. This alone would have scared me away :P
You can't just hide behind the contract and say 'well this is a contract like it or not my organisation not yours sucked in buddy'
A) Not the case at all, neither side has even said that?
B) Irrelevant. The only people in this community that act like managers are > players have been made fun of repeatedly
A) Not the case at all, neither side has even said that?
B) Irrelevant. The only people in this community that act like managers are > players have been made fun of repeatedly
A) Saying 'how can you complain, this is the contract you signed' is literally hiding behind the contract.
B) While this might be true in the SC2 community, it hasn't changed anyone's behaviour, and if you start to talk about the wider Australian eSports community: hilarious.
It's not so much that they haven't said it. If the players didn't want to sign it, and gave valid reasons for doing so, and were forced to leave the organisation because 'the contract is final take it or leave it', then it kinda sucks for all involved because it's just a bunch of wasted time and effort.
It's perfectly reasonable to say that the contract can be negotiated, but the terms of that negotiation, in most cases, never clear. Much like the mysterious 'case-by-case' basis and reimbursement 'guidelines' I've seen a lot of players having to deal with.
But it's just my two cents, I'm not well versed in putting together contracts. I'm just all for transparency, that's all.
There is no reason to feel this attitude towards other people in the Australian scene. Founding, managing or working for teams, in reality, does not elevate your social status, and it's a real shame that some peoples attitudes reflect this nonsense.
Bro. Sorry to hear this happen.
The team has been getting so good, it's sad to see the sponsorship couldn't get through.
Seems like a pretty similar case with us and PokerStrategy. Some sponsors just don't work well.
I wish you and your team good luck!
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