For people who missed the broadcast, here's the cliff notes:
New team, named Invidia (Nv).
Sponsored/Managed by Dox.
We'll be going to MLG later this year.
Nv.Rossi Replays
(Download Pack)
Rossi vs iceiceice
Rossi vs mOOnGLaDe
Rossi vs RvnDreaM
Rossi vs coLCatZ
Rossi vs Lizzy
Rossi vs iceiceice
Nv.deth Replays
(Download Pack)
deth vs xGKingMaFia
deth vs HerOZenith
deth vs 랜덤
deth vs Foiextreme
deth vs xGKingLight
deth vs 아레스 (#82 KR )
deth vs 조물주
Nv.Pinder Replays
(Download Pack)
Pinder vs SQLTtNinja
Pinder vs xGKingiaguz
Pinder vs TtPiG
But YAY DOX awesome... i was thinking about making a team.. (thinking mind) but i wouldnt know the first thing about running a team... or who to get n stuff... so im glad this happened haha
This is seriously huge. With more teams popping up over SEA (xG, SQLTt, Nv, Mski etc) more LAN's like ARENA, CityHunter, the SGL and now the inclusion of Sc2 on the ACL circuit things can only get better and better. Huge, huge props to Dox for everything he has already done, is still doing and will obviously continue to do in the future for the Australian eSports scene and players. Dox definitely deserves a beer or two from most of the community for the sheer amount of work he has put in. Looking forward to the progress and growth of Nv. Aussies iNvading the world yo
PS: Shotgun being #1 fanboy
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sending the whole team to MLG is going to be AMAZING!!! cant wait to see some of them on HD stream @ MLG representing SEA!!!
dox could i ask - do you have a big sponsor lined up or are you personally sponsoring them yourself?
that looks like at least 8k in tickets / accommodation for the 6 of you to MLG so if you managed to secure a sponsor for that, major props. And if you're sponsoring that out of your own pocket thats worth even more respect!! I think not many people realise this and it deserves a special mention!!
Lastly i'm so hoping the zerg is glade or edge! tgun is with itsgosu so that rules him out i guess and it could possibly be glade since hes in japan and cant sign the contract atm? no idea i'm just speculating but im really excited to see who the zerg is!
MLG just got much more exciting. You have been given an amazing opportunity to represent the severely under represented SEA region! dont take it for granted and do your best! those of us with no jobs will all be up at a stupidly early time rooting for you!!
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
Sun Tzu 孫子
"If storm finishes I survive, otherwise terran is op" xGKingDelete 2012
Well its not Glade as hes without contrast atm and highly unlikely its tgun, generally contractully speaking it should be a period of at least a year and he joined GoSu only a month or so ago. So im gunna take a stab at..... Mafia or JazBas. Taking the level of competition at MLG, ima go with Jaz (Because hes one hell of a New Zealander )
I think it's Tgun, because Invidia would pay for his trips, something which ItsGosu doesn't. Or Ender because he's beast and might want extra oppurtunities
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
Sun Tzu 孫子
"If storm finishes I survive, otherwise terran is op" xGKingDelete 2012
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I hope the guys put in the effort that a team like this deserves and get some good results! they will have SEA behind them! you could say they have a WAVE of support....i am a comedian and shit.
I hope the guys put in the effort that a team like this deserves and get some good results! they will have SEA behind them! you could say they have a WAVE of support....i am a comedian and shit.
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
Sun Tzu 孫子
"If storm finishes I survive, otherwise terran is op" xGKingDelete 2012
My money is on tgun or jazbas! Both fit the description of a high calibre zerg that would be at home on this team, that would benefit from the travel opportunities, that already have a commitment to a team that they need to finish up.
Dox, also I wanna say, mad props for releasing the replay packs! I hope there'll be more to come from Invidia following tournaments too. I love having play from top players accessible for my own practice!
I am pretty sure it's not Jazbas because Dox said the zerg player was australian.
I don't think it's mOOnGLaDe neither because he's not currently in a team.
Tgun sounds good.
I am pretty sure it's not Jazbas because Dox said the zerg player was australian.
I don't think it's mOOnGLaDe neither because he's not currently in a team.
Tgun sounds good.
Some contract terms last even after you're out of a team. Just dropping a relevant, but-may-not-necessarily-apply-to-this-scenario, hint
P.S. Wouldn't be nice of me to state what those terms are. :/
Its a Zerg
It's an Australian
He (or she?) is currently under a contract or under the waiting period of a now terminated contract
The ones I think of are
Shuffle- (currently in Korea I dont see him leaving that sweet gig up)
tgun- says it isnt him
PiG- Mayo has come in to say it isnt him
MaFia- No contract negotiations currently in process
pokerface- No contract negotiations currently in process
Myuu- No contract negotiations currently in process
Ninja- a possibility?
Given that tgun joined GoSu a week after leaving FXO (and qxc changed teams within a week too) it can only be assumed there is nothing contractually restricting GLaDe from joining
Unless Im missing a zerg under contract?
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I'll add Edge to the list and say other ex-Archaic players Rossi and Pinder already signed with this team, so I don't think it's him...
yeah Rossi, deth and Pinder all joined and I know (atleast what ive been told by the guy who wrote the contract) that ArchMSI's SCII player contracts werent too formal
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It's quite obviously Chadmann.
He will be playing random for this team in the Upcoming GSL Code A season, Zerg is just the race that has been put there to confuse all of you.
yeah Rossi, deth and Pinder all joined and I know (atleast what ive been told by the guy who wrote the contract) that ArchMSI's SCII player contracts werent too formal
What guy who wrote what contract? We literally had NO contract, god you talk so much shit its unbelievable.
Given that tgun joined GoSu a week after leaving FXO (and qxc changed teams within a week too) it can only be assumed there is nothing contractually restricting GLaDe from joining
Shouldn't be any limitation restricting him from joining as far as I know.
What guy who wrote what contract? We literally had NO contract, god you talk so much shit its unbelievable.
Pandan (former owner of ArchMSI) , basically he said it was a piece of paper outlining what you will get and what you may get
unless Pandan lied to me? or maybe I misheard him? I remember specifically talking to him about the subject because I wanted advice when It came to writing up the contracts for Xeria
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Pandan (former owner of ArchMSI) , basically he said it was a piece of paper outlining what you will get and what you may get
TIL: Piece of paper saying "Hopefully we can send you this" with no ones signature on it, which despite being captain of the sc2 team for the entire time never ever saw or heard about, are referred to as 'contracts'.
Its a Zerg
It's an Australian
He (or she?) is currently under a contract or under the waiting period of a now terminated contract
The ones I think of are
Shuffle- (currently in Korea I dont see him leaving that sweet gig up)
tgun- says it isnt him
PiG- Mayo has come in to say it isnt him
MaFia- No contract negotiations currently in process
pokerface- No contract negotiations currently in process
Myuu- No contract negotiations currently in process
Ninja- a possibility?
Given that tgun joined GoSu a week after leaving FXO (and qxc changed teams within a week too) it can only be assumed there is nothing contractually restricting GLaDe from joining
ArchMSI had more of an agreement where as Xeria has a firm commitments from both parties
@Pinder- perhaps 'contract' wasnt the best choice of word but youve seriously got to tone down the hostility its getting old
Me calling you out when you spurt out garbage is because you try to sound 'in the know' about everything when most of the information you get is pure rumor mill you embellish in whichever way you see fit - it's getting old.
Me calling you out when you spurt out garbage is because you try to sound 'in the know' about everything when most of the information you get is pure rumor mill you embellish in whichever way you see fit - it's getting old.
Like I said you bore me, good luck with Nv buddy, I hope any potential sponsors dont view your behavior as a representation of the entire team, itd be a shame to see all Dox's hard work hindered.
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Oh and on the subject of contracts... if a player breaks a contract what are you going to sue him for? Anything at this stage is not worth court time/fees. This is why i didn't get SQL to sign their names on a piece of paper, I trust my players, and I trust them. They hopefully know what i do for them is the best i can possibly do while giving them freedom and the respect as an individual.
Like I said you bore me, good luck with Nv buddy, I hope any potential sponsors dont view your behavior as a representation of the entire team, itd be a shame to see all Dox's hard work hindered.
Man... he's not even "misbehaving", he's just pointing out that you tend to make a habit of claiming knowledge about things you're not terribly privy to. The other most recent example was claiming that Rossi was looking at NA teams and SEA teams couldn't afford him or whatever.
All Pinder is trying to say is: stop speaking on behalf of others.
Man... he's not even "misbehaving", he's just pointing out that you tend to make a habit of claiming knowledge about things you're not terribly privy to. The other most recent example was claiming that Rossi was looking at NA teams and SEA teams couldn't afford him or whatever.
All Pinder is trying to say is: stop speaking on behalf of others.
No need for all this arguing and stuff. ESPORTS.
So me relaying what Pandan told me about how he wrote the ArchMSI agreements is me claiming knowledge? the Rossi thing- he told me at a January LAN (I cant remember whether it was SGL or CH) that he was looking at NA is also a direct source..
ok the SEA not being able to afford him part that is my opinion, simply because I believe he is a good enough player to be on a salary etc
I'd rather not derail your thread any further so if you have anything you want to add feel free to talk to me on skype tonight
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So me relaying what Pandan told me about how he wrote the ArchMSI agreements is me claiming knowledge? the Rossi thing- he told me at a January LAN (I cant remember whether it was SGL or CH) that he was looking at NA is also a direct source..
ok the SEA not being able to afford him part that is my opinion, simply because I believe he is a good enough player to be on a salary etc
You literally just confirmed exactly what i said regarding rumor mill and embellishment, right after you had a go at me for saying it.
he was in sc2sea chat just yesterday claiming to know that nvidia are notoriously tight when it comes to sponsorship. come on dude everyone can see with every post you make that you are dying for everybody to know you are an "insider"
you are so transparent its funny
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he was in sc2sea chat just yesterday claiming to know that nvidia are notoriously tight when it comes to sponsorship. come on dude everyone can see with every post you make that you are dying for everybody to know you are an "insider"
you are so transparent its funny
100% on the money mate, now how about we get back on topic
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I obviously got this figured out. Dox's a Zerg. The 5th player waiting to be announced is a Zerg. Dox is just having secret training and improving to moonglade's standard before announcing himself as the 5th player and kick ass.
I obviously got this figured out. Dox's a Zerg. The 5th player waiting to be announced is a Zerg. Dox is just having secret training and improving to moonglade's standard before announcing himself as the 5th player and kick ass.
well he kicked my arse not to long ago so could be Dox Hwaiting!
ArchaicMSI STARCRAFT players signed no contracts, just for the record. Pinder is a mate, so we just sent him $$ and he (luckily) chose to spend it on Starcraft.
I'd say Arnor assumed that other teams signing contracts means all teams signed contracts (every other team went overseas, and THEN they have to sign code of conduct and passport info etc)
Personally, I can't wait for the announcement that's coming up after this announcement. It's going to be fantastic
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ArchaicMSI STARCRAFT players signed no contracts, just for the record. Pinder is a mate, so we just sent him $$ and he (luckily) chose to spend it on Starcraft.
I'd say Arnor assumed that other teams signing contracts means all teams signed contracts (every other team went overseas, and THEN they have to sign code of conduct and passport info etc)
Personally, I can't wait for the announcement that's coming up after this announcement. It's going to be fantastic
sending the whole team to MLG is going to be AMAZING!!! cant wait to see some of them on HD stream @ MLG representing SEA!!!
dox could i ask - do you have a big sponsor lined up or are you personally sponsoring them yourself?
that looks like at least 8k in tickets / accommodation for the 6 of you to MLG so if you managed to secure a sponsor for that, major props. And if you're sponsoring that out of your own pocket thats worth even more respect!! I think not many people realise this and it deserves a special mention!!
Lastly i'm so hoping the zerg is glade or edge! tgun is with itsgosu so that rules him out i guess and it could possibly be glade since hes in japan and cant sign the contract atm? no idea i'm just speculating but im really excited to see who the zerg is!
Widh it's Glade , it'll be awesome !!
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okay - so Dox said he needed to finalise some Contract stuff with the 5th Zerg member.. and he's gone to Brisbane this weekend.. and a particular Brisbane based Zerg has been on holidays until recently.. coincidence?...
idk, tho Dox is from Brisbane so might just be visiting family, we shall see..
okay - so Dox said he needed to finalise some Contract stuff with the 5th Zerg member.. and he's gone to Brisbane this weekend.. and a particular Brisbane based Zerg has been on holidays until recently.. coincidence?...
idk, tho Dox is from Brisbane so might just be visiting family, we shall see..
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Lol weird my sister said she recognised Dox at the QUT open day today, she didn't exactly say Dox though it was more along the lines of "Hey Nik I saw that guy that was running that game thing that you dragged me to on the gold coast, I think I saw his girlfriend there too". Dox is now at the status of being recognised by non starcraft nerds.
Lol weird my sister said she recognised Dox at the QUT open day today, she didn't exactly say Dox though it was more along the lines of "Hey Nik I saw that guy that was running that game thing that you dragged me to on the gold coast, I think I saw his girlfriend there too". Dox is now at the status of being recognised by non starcraft nerds.
I know exactly who you're talking about! A girl in the front row kept turning around to look at me like she wanted to say something but I had no idea who she was lol.
I know exactly who you're talking about! A girl in the front row kept turning around to look at me like she wanted to say something but I had no idea who she was lol.
Hmm... The silhouette looks nothing like GlaDe though T.T
Complexity's silheouttes for killer and Heart looked nothing like them, people are crafty, maybe its just to throw us off? idk. i doubt its glade, but it'd be awesome if it is.
Dammit, I passed you walking to my place T.T I looked at you and then kept going and then stopped and was like.. is that?... no.. is it? You were looking kinda confused and looking like you were trying to find something. Should've said hi !
O DEAR GOD how did we not see this before nice work with the photo hahaha im sure there is though tbh ^_^ Dox is a pretty awesome guy and does a lot for esports im sure he has a zerg and as he said before he is waiting on other people who probably arnt as organised as him
I just realised, but - Nv officially the most attractive SC2 team.. ever.
Pinder - Jawline chiselled by the gods
deth - The bad boy that every one loves to hate.. better hide your daughters!
Rossi - The Italian Stallion!!
Yoon - The party boy - he's got the hook ups and knows how to get down.
mOpGLaDe - the locks of an Amazon goddess - gosu personified in the body of the prince of Persia.
EDIT: Don't forget Dox, OMG how could I!
I'm sorry.
But Dox, much has been documented about Dox.. especially in the Guinness book of records - Largest Penis of any man. Dox's member stands at a miraculous size and girth - While his Girlfriend lives in Brisbane, and he is in Melbourne, he still gets the job done - Now that is some serious length.
When is the team getting Jerseys? When and where can i buy one?
Was hoping to have them by now, but sponsors are slowing us down. We don't have any "non-personalised" designs at the moment, but it's definitely something I'll happily look into for the future!
The 5th addition to the line up is "Bloodmyst" who as of late has proved to be a forced to be reckoned with! Over time he has proved to be a solid Terran within the SEA community and will show at the next MLG what Australia can bring to the table!
Gotta admit, the announcement of a Zerg was midleading huh? Gotcha all!
There's a few layers here. Let's strip out the letters, first.
E
Y
Now we're left with what? 14221102? 14, 22, 11, 02?
Let's check the corresponding alphabetical letters for these numbers.
14 = N
22 = V
11 = K
02 = B
Now the K and the B are irrelevant. Let's look at the original string again, with our new information.
14[ENV]02[Y]
ENVY? 1402? Could this be a date? The 14th of February?
But if we look at the Hex code for 14E221... it reveals the colour "Green." The colour green is most commonly associated with two connotations - Growth, and ENVY.
The image was also contained in a folder named "CIRCE", to begin a trail of breadcrumbs to a Wikipedia page.
Once again, if we take these numbers and apply the alphabetical correspondence, we get a list of interesting letters.
By taking the filename of this image (SALAGIA.jpg) and performing a simple Google search, the 7 Deadly Sins Wiki page is at the top of the list. Quickly scrolling through this wiki will reveal that these letters represent the Modern definitions of the traditional Seven Deadly Sins.
L --- Lust
G --- Gluttony
G --- Greed
S --- Sloth
A --- Acedia
W --- Wrath
E --- Envy
P --- Pride
V --- Vainglory
Of course, the number 5 was highlighted - directing your attention toward ENVY.
I was just going to post the silhouette of deth, but I thought it might be a bit underwhelming. I mean, we're already on the 7 Deadly Sins theme, so is the name "deth" just another reference? Or he is he somehow involved?
Either way, I went ahead and embedded two images in the single clue. I cut holes out of the image to suggest that there was something hidden underneath the silhouette.
And thus we had "HUMANitas.jpg" and "VioletOcean.jpg", both residing within the previously "locked" folder: Temperantia.
Temperantia was merely another reference to the 7 Deadly Sins. I really wanted to drive this home so people had a good "base" to start looking for clues, because only one or two people had briefly grazed over the suggestion of Envy at this point.
HUMANitas was another reference, whilst also leading suggestion towards the word "HUMAN", which I hoped would direct people away from an "event" and more about a person, or people. I would revisit this capitalisation with another clue later on.
The second file - VioletOcean was something I injected because surprisingly, people still hadn't figured out the date of the announcement, despite it being in the first clue. Each calendar month is represented by a flower, and February's flower is the Violet. As for "Ocean", this served two purposes. One - I wanted people to begin associating the clues with the sea, or SEA. And of course, the famous film - Oceans 11 - allows these two words combined to represent the announcement date - February 11. Unfortunately no-one was able to draw this conclusion, so I was forced to deliver another clue later on. As for the actual graphic, I included "Ὀργή" - which is Greek for "Wrath" - to keep people on the 7 Deadly Sins trail.
At this stage, people had pretty much nailed it down. Lots of people knew it was going to be a new team, and someone even suggested that it would be called Invidia. So I figured I'd throw out a silhouette of Pinder to confirm peoples suspicions. Lots of red, an ex-ArcMSI member, and now Pinder as well? It was too obvious. But would I really make it that simple? People started second guessing themselves. It was actually a lot of fun to watch.
As for the numbers, this one was quite easy. I took the first letter of each team members' name and extracted their corresponding number. Each time you see a "1" or "2", you assume it's a two digit number, not the letter A or B.
So most people saw this:
AFBEAHACD
When they should have been seeing this:
PYRMD (Pinder, YoonYJ, Rossi, mOOnGLaDe, deth)
Furthermore, I capitalised the letters "ID" in the filename (prIDe.jpg) to suggest that this image had something to do with names. Looking back at clue #4 and combining it with this one, we get "HUMAN ID." Nothing terribly helpful or informative, but we can't make it too obvious now, can we?
The image was hosted in a folder named "ANGEALTHUNDER." This one was a lot of fun. You see, Angeal is a character from the Final Fantasy 7 franchise. He was actually Zack Fair's mentor and best friend - the original wielder of the Buster Sword, before it was passed down to Zack, and eventually Cloud Strife. But what's important here, is that all of Angeal's attacks in FF7: Crisis Core, are based on the 7 Deadly Sins. The fact that I included "Thunder" in the folder name was enough to point people towards one special attack in particular: Thunder of ENVY.
#6 Live stream (Unfortunately it's no longer on my twitch account)
By this point, I'd already created Battle.net accounts for some of the guys on the team, and within 5 hours of laddering, they had achieved GrandMaster on SEA. Strangely enough, people still hadn't correctly figured out the date of the announcement, despite my attempts to put it out there. So I fired up my stream and played an audio file whilst scrolling through the grandmaster ranks of SEA. The audio file is a brilliant speech which was used to promote the upcoming FA Cup Soccer match between Liverpool & Manchester United on February 11th, 2012.
(Can't seem to find the original file, but here's a very similar one - only one second difference)
Here is an extract of the audio, I think it's really quite awesome. Very fitting for a competitive strategy environment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The first move requires no pieces
It is the look in the eyes of your opponent
The iron gaze of a warrior
The frozen stare of a man possessed
The piercing glare of a champion
Feel his years
A life time of hunger, hope, trifles and triumphs
Search his heart for fear
Show him none in return
No single piece can win a match
Combine several
Move them in concert
And behold a synchronized symphony of force
Push forward
Attack
Retreat
Or is it a trick?
A ruse to draw out the opposition.
Be watchful - as one avenue closes, another opens. Employ tactics that advance your aims, while perplexing your rival.
Be mindful of time, but do not grant a clock authority over your reason.
Defend with vigour - a skilled adversary is beatable when his movements are restricted and his patterns are exposed.
Tension grinds at the nerves. Emotion can weigh a man down or lift him in the air.
This is a game of kings. It is ballet of the brain.
Choreographed on a wooden slab.
Promise your foe one thing: doom.
Accept only ultimate glory as your prize.
Know that winning and losing ARE black and white.
Master this game, and you will make the final move.
After all have fallen, you will stand alone, crown intact.
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Call it co-incidence, but there's actually two layers of clues in this video. The duration of the video is also 2 minutes and 11 seconds. 2:11. February 11th.
So I scrolled through the list of Grandmasters - passing right over a player known as "NvT", who appeared in the GM ranks overnight. It didn't take long before people figured out where the audio had been extracted from, but for some reason no-one gave it much more thought. At this point in time, no-one has identified the relevance or length of the video.
During my broadcast, I titled the video "The Flying Serpent", and selected "Leviathan" as the game I was broadcasting. I've never even seen a game called Leviathan before, but the important part here is that Leviathan was one of the 7 Princes of Hell, representing the sin of ENVY.
Furthermore, the Leviathan is more commonly known as the most formiddable creature of the sea. In this case, the most formiddable entity of SEA.
I went on to insert a highlight in the twitch.tv VOD at the 2:11 mark. The highlight was titled "AOG". These letters correspond to 1, 15 and 7. Phonetically, O could be read as 0, so we'll revert the 15. 1, 0, 7.
107. NvT's Grand Master rank in the video at time of broadcast - as I scrolled past his rank.
Considering how much effort MiLes had put into his investigation, and how right he had been all along, I decided to give him a free clue after we were matched on the ladder. I took a screenshot at the end of the game, but adjusted the in-game clock to read 2:11. Furthermore, I set the replay speed to x2, and you can see I have 11 friends online. After the several hints towards 2/11, people finally managed to recognise it's relevance! The announcement date had been unveiled.
Furthermore, I took the modern spelling of "Leviathan" (LIVYATAN) and used it as the folder name for the screenshot, directing people back to this reference I had raised earlier.
Then there is the title of the screenshot. "Job41_17_25_33.jpg"
In Chapter 41 of the Hebrew Bible, (The book of Job), the Leviathan is described in several passages.
#17: They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted.
#25: When he rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before his thrashing.
#33: Nothing on earth is his equal— a creature without fear.
I felt that these descriptions applied adequately to the team.
So this is it. No more cropping, but a little bit of blurring. What do we see here? We have an image named "schadenfreude.jpg" in a folder called "tt0097737". Schadenfreude is a German word, meaning "pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others." Closely connected to Envy. But in this case, it goes a little deeper.
Upon clicking on the image, a link is embedded which returns a single tweet, from an Twitter account named "NvHumanitas" - real name "Leviathan". The tweet is a link to a replay in the same folder. The replay is also named "tt0097737.SC2Replay".
The tt0097737 is the IMDB page ID assigned to the film "Leviathan." It is the first google result listed.
Now back to the jpg. In this picture we can see 5 people. 4 silhouettes have been blurred out, and in front of them, 6 rows of numbers. The numbers "6, 0, 0, 7, 3, 5" are highlighted.
The 735 indicates the length of the replay (7m 35s), played on my smurf account, against a Protoss player on Xel'Naga Caverns. The 600 suggests that the user should pause the game at the 6 minute mark, and pay close attention to the replay. Upon pausing the game and selecting a curiously positioned bunch of drones off to the side of the map, a series of waypoints are revealed - spelling out a name. YOONYJ.
As of 11:00PM 01/02/12, "NvT" is ranked 25th on the SEA GM ladder - just a few ranks below TtPiG, xGKingMaFia and SQLTtSenSei.
This one was the big hint to mOOnGLaDe. The folder is named "siNDwELLEr" - a well known Demon Hunter in WarCraft lore. The only letters capitalised are the same ones that appear in mOOnGLaDe's ID. As for lEOtHErAs.jpg, this is yet another well known Demon Hunter from WarCraft. Both of these clues point towards mOOnGLaDe, as his signature hero throughout years of WarCraft 3 dominance was the Demon Hunter. Furthermore, the capitalisation of lEOtHErAs matches mOOnGLaDe.
Furthermore, if you were to zoom in on the inner curve of the letter "N", you'll see the letters "DA" very well concealed amongst the blue. So that's "DA" IN "VIDIA", carefully spelling out David, and revealing Rossi as one of the members.
The silhouette is YoonYJ at the WCG Australia 2012 Finals, you can find that photo on our Facebook page.
As for the digits, I added 1, 5 and T to the original string of numbers and letters, which when mashed together with the existing "Nv" gave you NvT and the number 15 - YoonYJ's rank at the time of posting.
As a pure co-incidence, a band with the same name as the team decided to follow me on twitter. I edited their 2nd series of numbers to spell out Michaelangelo, and added a ninja turtle silhouette. This pointed the focus back to Rossi.
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Just out of interest, why is the team called invidia?
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Originally Posted by deL
Invidia means envy, and the clan tag is Nv (sounded out like envy) so that's where the name comes from as far as I can tell.
It's a creative play on words, pretty clever actually but the team name itself isn't going down too well over in the old TL thread. :P Unless I'm wrong and Dox called it that for some other reason, I'm just going off of what deL said.
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The team is effectively labelled Envy (Nv), and the latin word for Envy is Invidia.
I think the TL lynch mob is just feeling empowered after having someone fired for perceived racism, and now they feel like they have the power to force teams to change their name. We have nothing to do with Nvidia, and Nvidia is fine with us.
The team is effectively labelled Envy (Nv), and the latin word for Envy is Invidia.
I think the TL lynch mob is just feeling empowered after having someone fired for perceived racism, and now they feel like they have the power to force teams to change their name. We have nothing to do with Nvidia, and Nvidia is fine with us.
We should start our own lynch mob to hard counter their lynch mob.
I think the problem is that so many people are getting confused, not whether nvidia cares or not. Maybe they'll drop it soon, but if they don't, or if the same confusion arises in the future, there's a problem.
I think the problem would arise if caster's at MLG go like "Their name kinda sounds like Nvidia, though it doesn't seem like they're sponsored by them" and those little boys think they said "They name themselves after Nvidia but aren't sponsored by them which is wrong"
Daw is ok Dox. I think the TLers mean well. Kennigit's words certainly seem like they should be taken into consideration, but in the end it is up to you guys, and if you say Nvidia is fine with it gogogo
Originally Posted by Spud
Congrats! So are you guys sponsored by nvidia?
I'm pretty sure they are. You can tell by the name.
Come on guys, this has been discussed to death already. Invidia and Nvidia have nothing to do with each other. The likeness in the names is purely coincidental. Please get over it.
Come on guys, this has been discussed to death already. Invidia and Nvidia have nothing to do with each other. The likeness in the names is purely coincidental. Please get over it.
Come on guys, this has been discussed to death already. Invidia and Nvidia have nothing to do with each other. The likeness in the names is purely coincidental. Please get over it.
So are you confirming or denying? I'm still unsure.
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I wasn't suggesting they were insisting the two were related, just asking people to please stop going on about it. It's especially frustrating for Dox who has enough of this to deal with from the TL community. Please give it a rest.
he should probably edit into the OP on the TL thread and explain the name, americans are pretty dumb usually, and it seems to be being brought up on every page.
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