I have had multiple conversations with Rogue, who I trust completely in her judgements, also with those who have analysed the replays and based on that there is no condemning evidence to suggest Tefel was hacking. Just unfortunate circumstances for you. The inquiry is noted however in case it comes up in the future again
After vsing a mid masters player called "Raindrop" on the SEA server a few times, I've come to the conclusion hes a maphacker. I watched over my most recent replay vs him with a few others, and we all agreed that this was the case. I cant really be bothered writing out every timestamp for each for proof, but it gets pretty obvious on the newkirk map when I go mutas. Without any observers or vision, he chases my mutas around his bases and ALWAYS has units in place to defend over a large period of time. Other than that, he peers into the fog of war a lot and doesn't check for bases before responding to me having 3rd or 4th bases.
Although, Im sure this is more embarrassing for me as the replays show both horrible gameplay from me and that I've played games on SEA.
might as well list off the hackers you know so people can save replays vs them and then confirm or deny it
And for Satu to hit them on ladder and be Hacker Destroyer of SEA. :P
In all seriousness though, if you have any replays where any suspicious activity/maphack is detected post it on here and people can help verify for you.
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Map is Whirlwind, (total time of game is around 4:10-4:20)
JaeJeang sends a probe instantly to where i spawned when the game begins (around 0:05-0:10) whilst i scout on 9.
After watching the replay, my probe was going to see his probe coming into my base outside my natural around (0:45-0:55) but however he appears to of looked at the fog of war on the exact path my probe was going and then proceeded to hide his probe perfectly outside my natural. When my probe passes barely out of range, his probe proceeds to enter my base (around 1:00-1:10)
After not even seeing my nexus, throws a hidden pylon down in the corner of my base (around 1:30) and makes two gateways, a forge and 3 zealots before attacking (around 4 minutes) with still, no 'official' scouting information.
Map is Whirlwind, (total time of game is around 4:10-4:20)
JaeJeang sends a probe instantly to where i spawned when the game begins (around 0:05-0:10) whilst i scout on 9.
After watching the replay, my probe was going to see his probe coming into my base outside my natural around (0:45-0:55) but however he appears to of looked at the fog of war on the exact path my probe was going and then proceeded to hide his probe perfectly outside my natural. When my probe passes barely out of range, his probe proceeds to enter my base (around 1:00-1:10)
After not even seeing my nexus, throws a hidden pylon down in the corner of my base (around 1:30) and makes two gateways, a forge and 3 zealots before attacking (around 4 minutes) with still, no 'official' scouting information.
Enjoy the replay
Thanks guys,
VB_Enak
Yep, I know imTOP has a replay of JaeJeang. Proxy 2 gate; in base on Frost and no scouting.
I've got a really suss replay of iAmBack a member of NairX when I was playing on SEA.
I was winging a proxy on Bel'Shir, he seemed to find it quite quickly and get a robo without seeing a factory making mines.
2:20ish - He sends a probe directly to my proxy sitting at his third
4:20 - He looks directly at my proxy for a brief moment in fog of war (and sees a factory?)
4:36 - He scouts below his base to find another proxy? There's nothing there. I think he did this to not look like a hacker.
4:40 - Throws down a robo without seeing factory properly? Bit weird.
11:17 - Looks at his pylon at the front of my nat weirdly. Seeing that I'm just about to take my nat?
11:30 - He conveniently attacks me.
Just with a google search of ""iamback" hack" I found
Just a heads up guys. Can't be definitive but I thought it was too convenient.
EDIT: More evidence in replay 2. Around 5:30 he tries scouting with a probe, it dies. Then shortly after he looks at my nat and then my main in fog of war for about 30 seconds.
I use to play alot of customs with iAmBack as he wanted to improve and the last one a week ago. He went from barely beating platinums to masters in a single day with a 35+ win streak afew days ago the moment he joined NairX. Either his account is being boosted (personality seems different) or hacking. Very sad to see either way as someone i did consider a friend.
watch out on KR sever Terran player called kawioo i fink he map hacks he just new where i was on a 4 player map and blocked my hatch from building and did a all in where it failed to work 3 times
[ToT]Inspire and [ToT]IMDDK are map hackers. Not blatant, they're sly but you can never hide the truth (omg phoenix wright quote squeee)
It was a 2v2 on the SEA server, they also did not scout the entire game Inspire (the Protoss) had many observers on the field (possibly to cover for the hacking) but did not scout once with them.
Replay can be found here for further analysis: http://drop.sc/365127
An additional replay played the game previous that I have not analysed yet can be found here: http://drop.sc/365128
5:20 targets stationary SCV with attack move through Fog Of War with no vision after move commanding
6:51 Attack moves Zerglings down ramp into reaper but suddenly pulls them back for no explainable reason to defend the mineral line from the said reaper that jumps into the base to harrass (mostly suspicious, not conclusive)
7:33 looks into Fog of war at Reaper which is about to check third base
~8min: Opposing forces move out on minimap, Overlord catches glimpse of it but neither play looks at the force and Zerg (facing the opposing attack) starts making a lot lings possibly in preparation of the attack (mostly suspicious)
13:15: I fly medivacs over his army (stupidly) which he seems to suspiciously position for
14:08: Moves forces into fog of war into the path of a freshly loaded Medivac, then positions army in in the direction of the medivac without seeing or knowing about it
I don't know how active ToT are anymore, but Inspire and IMDDK are definitely map hackers who have the potential to seriously damage the credibility of the well respected clan Trick or Treat.
This also makes me feel less bad about losing and my horrible terran play
Thanks,
Chasu
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