Meconium is black and sticky, after that breastfed baby poo is usually mustard coloured... if they're eating other stuff it gets different. Green and frothy in a excusively breastfed baby is not a good thing.
People need to stop talking about poo.
On the the offchance that it's actually constructive - it's still kinda gross.
Occasionally amusing, but most of the time just kinda gross.
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Here I thought there would be a full page regarding new theories on the riddles/clues and I get a page that, as amazing as I might be, is just talking about what colour i am .
People need to stop talking about poo. On the the offchance that it's actually constructive - it's still kinda gross. Occasionally amusing, but most of the time just kinda gross.
I want more recognition for my genius-level hilarity
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wouldn't nvidia have a few problems with this since it sounds like their name, or is nvidia an official backer of the team?
if they're not sponsoring this team, organisation or w/e it is, has their legal counsel or PR staff been contacted to ask for their consent?
It's got nothing to do with them so no. The word Invidia is not owned by anyone and it's likeness to Nvidia is merely coincidental. No permission is required to use it.
wouldn't nvidia have a few problems with this since it sounds like their name, or is nvidia an official backer of the team?
if they're not sponsoring this team, organisation or w/e it is, has their legal counsel or PR staff been contacted to ask for their consent?
Why would invidia be the team name? iMiLes
Or is it even a team at all ;]
I thought there was something hidden in the picture but my screen was just dirty.
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The problem with that is that GM ranks are constantly shifting so it wouldn't be a reliable clue to give out if it was.
I've been clan leaguing all day so maybe I shall see what I can dig up tomorrow.
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Oh my gawd just let me eat breakfast first
13938512114751215 has been added, I'm gonna go to page 1 and compile all the info into a document.
Edit: Who is the NvT fella that has just popped up into gm. http://i.imgur.com/7QL01.jpg
Has a few customs with pig but other than that has just been smashing ladder.
Edit 2: Looking up Oberbereiter and Hausberger so far has come up with Some sort of Old Saddle Club Alumni dudebro.
One of them leads - Pinder
One of them is good with machines - I dunno but lets throw in Edge because Padan said 2 terrans 1 protoss 1 zerg
One of the is cool but rude - Deth
And the other one is a party dude - YoonYJ
Pinder mentioned he isnt a player on the team and that he was flattered people would think he'd be asked, perhaps that was a kinda sorta deception where Pinder is on the team but will be taking on more of a management role (like Infeza)
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My only other solution for the protoss is Kowi he is the lone member of the Meka.Tt SCII team, this is Tt's new AUS/NZ pro team, which contractually could mean that the Zerg could be PiG
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Well thread is derailed again
Or maybe on track?! (fml)
Tell me I'm crazy but I think NvT the new terran that has popped up on ladder is YYJ.
Checked out some replays and they have the same hotkeys, could just be a coincidence though.
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I think theenvy is still in reference to the team
In 1 clue we got
Ninja Turtle Shadow - Michaelangelo
MICHELANGELO - One of the Four Ninja Turtles (the pizza loving one)
Oberbereiter/Hausberger - Which through Google gave us a trained Stallion.
We can interpret that the Ninja Turtles reference either means 4 lads on the team or Dox made the Pizza reference a little bit easier
Thanks to the recent stream we can associate Rossi with both Stallion and Pizza.
I think the purpose of this clue was to introduce one of the members of Team Invidia.
Noticed another interesting piece of information about this new 'NvT' character dominating the ladder.
You can see that there is already a high GM dominating the GM ladder - doing quite well. However, While watching Rossi stream, inbetween some high quality pizza eating, he laddered.. and Hit NvT - everyone watch thought this was the mystery man at the top of GM.. but no.. This was a NvT in Master league.
So what this means, there are a few guys leveling up new accounts, all called NvT - they will probably name change them to include a full tag. I think this has confirmed the new sc2 team that Dox will most likely be managing. I wonder who is in the team tho?.. :S
EDIT: Just remembered.. Rossi waited for awhile after the game vs NvT.. not wanting to hit him again.. perhaps not wanting to hit one of his team mates? or a clan mate... either Rossi is in this new team OR a friend of his within TA perhaps? someone like deth?
Noticed another interesting piece of information about this new 'NvT' character dominating the ladder.
You can see that there is already a high GM dominating the GM ladder - doing quite well. However, While watching Rossi stream, inbetween some high quality pizza eating, he laddered.. and Hit NvT - everyone watch thought this was the mystery man at the top of GM.. but no.. This was a NvT in Master league.
So what this means, there are a few guys leveling up new accounts, all called NvT - they will probably name change them to include a full tag. I think this has confirmed the new sc2 team that Dox will most likely be managing. I wonder who is in the team tho?.. :S
Wow that would awesome if it was ^^ But is Stall really on the same level as Rossi, Yoon etc?
Having a team isnt always about having the best of the best SQL have Ninja and HuT who are only the slightest bit behind the rest, same goes for Bielsko and Myuu on xG, Stallion certainly has the potential and I think would do well from a pro team environment
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CruxStallion in chatbox today (after people in the thread have been theorizing that NvP could be stallion):
Today 5:29 PM: cruxStallion: hay does anyone know who this NvP person is?
Today 5:29 PM: breadfan: did you just play them, Stallion?
Today 5:30 PM: cruxStallion: yea got owned they were really good
We figured it may be him trying to throw attention off himself?
... Then I went through NvP's match history, he has not played a game against Stallion... That combined with the stallion clue means there's a pretty good chance its him.
CruxStallion in chatbox today (after people in the thread have been theorizing that NvP could be stallion):
Today 5:29 PM: cruxStallion: hay does anyone know who this NvP person is?
Today 5:29 PM: breadfan: did you just play them, Stallion?
Today 5:30 PM: cruxStallion: yea got owned they were really good
We figured it may be him trying to throw attention off himself?
... Then I went through NvP's match history, he has not played a game against Stallion... That combined with the stallion clue means there's a pretty good chance its him.
nah crazy i chobo i wanted to see if it was you pindr by your reaction but now im pretty sure its not you T_T and my tricksyness has been revealed T_T. Maybe someone like Rage? hes very good Delete is also gosu as far as protoss go i chobo anyone watching my stream last night wouldve seen the 15 game lose streak on sea T_T
CruxStallion in chatbox today (after people in the thread have been theorizing that NvP could be stallion):
Today 5:29 PM: cruxStallion: hay does anyone know who this NvP person is?
Today 5:29 PM: breadfan: did you just play them, Stallion?
Today 5:30 PM: cruxStallion: yea got owned they were really good
We figured it may be him trying to throw attention off himself?
... Then I went through NvP's match history, he has not played a game against Stallion... That combined with the stallion clue means there's a pretty good chance its him.
Pinder and Arnor cracking cases since 2012
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Sadly im still too noob T_T give me a month to train harder im gona stop playing na and focus on sea/kr and focus on just my training and coaching and let crux coach themselves for a while ^_^
So, what's the deal with using the tag that the old chinese team (that got bought out by IG) used. I just had a crazy idea about it being guys like NvMacSed or something smurfing on SEA.
Oh wow, I can't believe people haven't got it already! Some of the clues are so damn obvious Dox couldn't spell them out more if he tried (besides actually admitting it). So many people have guessed right but then second-guessed themselves and gone off in another tangent. Fail.
To be honest I think one of the biggest thing holding us back from working it all out is, there are often a lot of theory sessions in the sc2sea chatbox which end with some good theories on the evidence, but people just don't bother to post it in the thread, so instead of having the whole of sc2sea working on the theories based on everything we've alrdy worked out in this thread, we have like 2-3 of us at a time chatting about it in chatbox and everyone else missing out on things they might've figured out.
I seriously suspect Yoon, because considering all contracts have the ability to be released or even a buy out clause in the contrast it is considerable and considering the fact of what Danosaur said to me in light of Yoon's TvT its highly likely that NvT is Yoon. For the diversity of his builds across the match up is what makes Dan actually revere him as a Terran. Only him and Iaguz is he relatively impressed by.
Because it's rather pointless and for all we know dox won't come in and say when we've got the right answer so we move onto something else.
Yeah given time to question themselves, people will
Not to mention some of the best theories out there have been debated, like today with Yoon. He actively came up with so many reasons it couldn't be him in chat box and pleaded ignorance. Others we think are involved just stay quiet. So there's the possibility some of the guys are working to purposely throw us off
The Yoon clue was the clearest clue we have had. It's his name actually spelt out in waypoints. All others have involved someone recognising/digging up a picture, or abstract reasoning
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My amazement is at the fact that people have figured out the right answer but then decided they were wrong. Why are people doing that?
Because they do not know that they are even right in the first place - without any verification there is no conviction.
My amazement is at the fact that why you are even amazed when you don't understand what it's like to have imperfect information with regards to this puzzle?
Obviously all the accounts belong to me and i laddered them all just to troll you guys....this is why none of them have vs'd each other because they are all mine. Sorry
Okay, might as well jump on this for the first time since this whole thing was announced. Definitely think pinder is trying to game everyone and don't think it'd be iceiceice but it could be.
Gonna be a sick team once it's announced nonetheless.
Rossi, Deth, IceIceIce, and it's a mystery for the other two spots!
1 other and Dox... the other one is the protoss.. maybe Pinder is coming back (oh please oh please!!)
I have a feeling the clues have already revealed the answers.. we should go back over them with a fine toothed comb.. someone needs to write down all the CAPS and lower case letters in sequence and see if something comes out of that.. and.. errr.. someone beat Dox and find out the truth... either way 5 more days! :O
Latin for 'Envy', previous hints have contained references to Green (green with envy) and Leviathan (demon of envy). Invidia sounds like a cool name for a team imo.
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Fun side-note: Given this thread is so damned long already (thats what she said ), by the time it is announced / figured out nobody will know which of the many hundreds of pages to check to see the result!
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Fun side-note: Given this thread is so damned long already (thats what she said ), by the time it is announced / figured out nobody will know which of the many hundreds of pages to check to see the result!
I'd assume dox will make a new thread for the actual announcement.
Fun side-note: Given this thread is so damned long already (thats what she said ), by the time it is announced / figured out nobody will know which of the many hundreds of pages to check to see the result!
If anyone bothered to check my thread properly they could find some things out.
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Stop being gay miles if you figured something out let us know, no one is going to try to figure out your clues over dox's clues when there's a 90% chance your clues are just a troll.
okay so i admit just skimmed half of this :| there is a lot :P and i don't know enough about sc2 teams/players to come up with anything useful.
Whatever the answer ends up being... Can we have someone dress up as full metal alchemist characters? the seven deadly sins came up in that so much :P (and I loves it)
i think you started this thread too early, the hype is sort of wearing off.
Agreed, it was fun for the first day or two. Now we just can't be bothered.
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Azz had a chance at this one point in the game where he had a nexus and 6 probes. But he found a way to **** it up from there 3 times in a row - Iaguz
Found the answer guys, the clue was in the “The answer seems so base-sic” and the “All your bases are belong to us.” So I googled a bit and found Base code.
From the picture I got:
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I put that into http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotne.../base64decode/ and got this = NvP = Pinder
NvP
Has been hanging around the thread, but barely contributed and has been almost cryptic. Quickly advocated other protoss in Dox stream chat - can be seen as for fun though.
Passion may have returned after ACL, NEARLY defeated ChadMann
NvP has had more losses than the NvT accounts, often to more unknown players doing weird things. With the inactivity, Pinder would be likely to drop said games but also likely to have the strong record NvP does (35-12) = NvT GM = Yoon
NvT -
From edges experience, Yoon would be the only terran with huge sick records that bothered to ladder through +4 games constantly. NvT (Rank 4 GM) is identaical.
YoonYJ has not been on his account for 4 days
This may be speculation, but yoon may have wanted to travel to more events, but iM wasn't able to fulfill his requests. = NvT M = deth
NvT (masters)
Was requested to take a photo by dox, which was then used by dox as a silhouette
Has become closely acquainted with Dox in recent times
Has recently moved into new apartment, with ideal internet and a strong focus for ladder (been laddering heavily last few days/week
Has also been very secretive about streaming when I asked him to stream black people from his window saying that I would see his private conversations, also claims that his picture was used as a red herring because Dox asked him to take a picture for him but he posted that picture in a private chat in regards to Melbourne weather.
the nubers at the top on the left are the Nv sc2ranks profile IDs on the right are the players who own them.
+ 45517 is speculation that iceiceice is also involved in the team.. there are a few reasons that HB belive this is the case.. but nothing conclusive.
82-235-11141523 is just the numerical position in the alphabet for 'HB-WE-KNOW"
what a pointless thread... just saying it's pretty much exactly what we already thought.
Still, seems like an odd idea to swipe Yoon off iM and leave Rossi teamless. That guy is a baller and deserves sponsorship as much as anyone in SEA who has it.
what a pointless thread... just saying it's pretty much exactly what we already thought.
Still, seems like an odd idea to swipe Yoon off iM and leave Rossi teamless. That guy is a baller and deserves sponsorship as much as anyone in SEA who has it.
No.. its what you 'Thought' we provided conclusive evidence..
why are you so negative all the time?
Rossi might be looking at other teams... perhaps Nv couldn't afford him? >.<
also - the 0p's is the method Pinder uses to make probes?.. I think thats what we worked out.. apparently this is something only old school Protoss from Broodwar use.. so with this information and the remarkably similar hotkey configuration it can be seen that NvP is Pinder.
what a pointless thread... just saying it's pretty much exactly what we already thought.
Still, seems like an odd idea to swipe Yoon off iM and leave Rossi teamless. That guy is a baller and deserves sponsorship as much as anyone in SEA who has it.
Rossi has been getting a few offers, maybe someone offered him more? I heard rumors of an NA team making an offer?
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Well, there's no statement here. Is it Dox giving us this, or just Miles posting after he 'figured out' the answer in the other thread?
Because I think everyone there basically 'figured out' that this was the answer. There was a small amount of conjecture surrounding the number of players (whether there was more given 5 silhouettes), but Yoon, Deth and Pinder were basiclly decided upon.
If it's miles creating this thread to brag about guessing and comparing the hotkeys from some replays, seems stupid. If it's dox giving us more evidence through miles, why a separate thread?
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Originally Posted by Arnor@CityHunter
Rossi has been getting a few offers, maybe someone offered him more? I heard rumors of an NA team making an offer?
Well, that's cool... and I didn't mean to imply no other team could make rossi offers... that logic is stupid. But generally, international teams haven't expressed much interest in our players. Not entirely sure why Rossi would prove to be the exception, but much love if it's true.
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Please stop taking my credit, pretty sure I closed this case.
Post #28
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Originally Posted by Arnor@CityHunter
I have a feeling Dox is gonna pick up the ex ArchMSI boys and/or maybe a couple unsigned champs like techtron, Jimdiddy maybe even the awesome TargA!
how close am I? sigh I also have some awesome xG news but I dont wanna steal the lime light off you
post #71
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Originally Posted by Arnor@CityHunter
G = Greed = Rossi
G = Gluttony = Edge
S = Sloth = YYJ
A = Acedia = Voices
W = Wrath = Jimdiddy
E = Envy = Pinder
P = Pride = Deth
V = Vanity / Vainglory = TargA
am I close?
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Originally Posted by TAminimat
Found the answer guys, the clue was in the “The answer seems so base-sic” and the “All your bases are belong to us.” So I googled a bit and found Base code.
From the picture I got:
NvP = Pinder
NvT GM = Yoon
NvT M = deth
called it way earlier :P but seriously good work wasnt taking your credit just trying to restore a little calm as people were getting a little shirty
To all the butt hurt kids out there Im joking...
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Announcement: I've discovered the names of both the team and every player on it.
Team: @&$*sjdie
Player 1: Jidda&:@;8
Player 2: fmoshsk::j
Player 3: 9:&:&3""hj
Player 4: kfl228??'la
Player 5: oforo$&/"66
However being the cool cryptic person I am I've encoded it in 1024 bit RSA encryption. I will make an announcement in the future about the scavenger hunt which spans the Internet to look for clues about the date of an even further announcement about announcing the public keys.
If you want a further hint: &:@49(&/
This is only 512-bit rsa encryption so it should be easier to figure out.
called it way earlier :P but seriously good work wasnt taking your credit just trying to restore a little calm as people were getting a little shirty
Within those posts you basically picked every good player in SEA that isn't in a team and suggested it might be them.. the fact is.. other people worked out it was going to be a team.
And MiLes and the rest of the Hardy Boys developed conclusive evidence - rather than a bunch of sheep following the flock with speculation.
If MiLes didn't follow this thread and solve it.. you all would still think the announcement was about a tournament with foreigners coming over to compete.
So please - give credit where it is due.
Re: to Eras rep comment.
No, you just guessed it would be.. you didn't know.. the evidence above is proof.. you know where you can stick that neg rep?.. NvP will be able to tell you.
Within those posts you basically picked every good player in SEA that isn't in a team and suggested it might be them.. the fact is.. other people worked out it was going to be a team.
And MiLes and the rest of the Hardy Boys developed conclusive evidence - rather than a bunch of sheep following the flock with speculation.
If MiLes didn't follow this thread and solve it.. you all would still think the announcement was about a tournament with foreigners coming over to compete.
So please - give credit where it is due.
The fact you think that the few people who speculated in this thread that it was a tournament, reflects what the majority of people think shows how naive you are being.
Just because we don't post, doesn't mean we don't know what is going on. I told PiG I thought that it was gonna be a new team of ex archaic guys as soon as the first pic was discovered to be Deth.
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Azz had a chance at this one point in the game where he had a nexus and 6 probes. But he found a way to **** it up from there 3 times in a row - Iaguz
The fact you think that the few people who speculated in this thread that it was a tournament, reflects what the majority of people think shows how naive you are being.
Just because we don't post, doesn't mean we don't know what is going on. I told PiG I thought that it was gonna be a new team of ex archaic guys as soon as the first pic was discovered to be Deth.
and who told you that picture was deth?..
of course when all the evidence comes out.. people are going to say.. "see see I said this it would be this back on page 6 - I'm so smart.. ^_^".. but really people just kept spamming speculation.. taking no time to actually work anything out. Now Miles and HB have provided evidence.. your moonstars are neg repping and saying "ohhh I already knew that.. cause I'm so smart"
Within those posts you basically picked every good player in SEA that isn't in a team and suggested it might be them.. the fact is.. other people worked out it was going to be a team.
And MiLes and the rest of the Hardy Boys developed conclusive evidence - rather than a bunch of sheep following the flock with speculation.
If MiLes didn't follow this thread and solve it.. you all would still think the announcement was about a tournament with foreigners coming over to compete.
So please - give credit where it is due.
I was kidding, need to lighten up a bit bro, seriously the work Miles and Co has put into this has been crazy, I was mentioning the other day to someone on a skype call thats theres no point trying something like this again because Miles will crack it in 24 hours lol
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Re: to Eras rep comment.
No, you just guessed it would be.. you didn't know.. the evidence above is proof.. you know where you can stick that neg rep?.. NvP will be able to tell you.
Don't be a dick.
You uncovered slightly more evidence (and Peleus already did some hotkey analysis...) to prove it is indeed Yoon, Pinder and Deth being talked about. This doesn't 'prove' they are joining a new team or the name or anything.
It's good analysis, but not hard evidence of anything. Just a little more evidence pointing to the three guys who we already had enough 'clues' to say for near certainty.
Noone is trying to say MiLes didn't do a good job, but you are blowing your proof and the mild reaction to it -way- out of proportion, and just insulting the intelligence of everyone by saying they are too retarded to work it out.
I'm still sticking with my evidence that Dox is actually Housing a team not with Pinder yoon and deth but with IMMVP NESTEA IDRA BOXER FOXER BISU FLASH JAEDONG OBAMA MICHAEL JACKSON TASTOSIS ROSSI+SELTZER ANNA+INCONTROL KELLYMILKIES CELLA FIREBATHERO GRRR NONY KING DEE DEE DEE SIXJAXWINDYANDALLHISOTHEROVER9000SMURFS U2 MIA ROSE JENNA JAMESON DREWBIE+HISHANDCOZLEAHLEFTHIMCOZSHESAWHORE AND MORE
I'm still sticking with my evidence that Dox is actually Housing a team not with Pinder yoon and deth but with IMMVP NESTEA IDRA BOXER FOXER BISU FLASH JAEDONG OBAMA MICHAEL JACKSON TASTOSIS ROSSI+SELTZER ANNA+INCONTROL KELLYMILKIES CELLA FIREBATHERO GRRR NONY KING DEE DEE DEE SIXJAXWINDYANDALLHISOTHEROVER9000SMURFS U2 MIA ROSE JENNA JAMESON DREWBIE+HISHANDCOZLEAHLEFTHIMCOZSHESAWHORE AND MORE
Don't be a dick.
(and Peleus already did some hotkey analysis...) .
Fri, 3rd-Feb-2012, 3:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TAMiLes
Well thread is derailed again
Or maybe on track?! (fml)
Tell me I'm crazy but I think NvT the new terran that has popped up on ladder is YYJ.
Checked out some replays and they have the same hotkeys, could just be a coincidence though.
My bad... I must have missed one or two posts in here over the weekend...
But if you'd already posted about that... why the need for the new thread containing nothing but screenshots of the analysis you'd posted about in here already?
EDIT: I was originally referring to Peleus' post and your new thread, to be clear. But the above question follows the new revelation...
My bad... I must have missed one or two posts in here over the weekend...
But if you'd already posted about that... why the need for the new thread containing nothing but screenshots of the analysis you'd posted about in here already?
For what it's worth, I thought Miles' thread was really cool. I had fun trying to decrypt it and follow along to see if they really had unveiled everything I had to offer. Obviously there were others who enjoyed it (Minimat) and that's awesome.
(I'd also just like to highlight that multiple posts complaining about a "pointless thread" is inherently even more pointless.)
Eh.. Think what you will about me - I don't really care.
But MiLes and a few others spent some time working out the answers to the clues while many others posted wild speculation. When MiLes and Cam developed the more conclusive evidence we thought it would be fun to post in cryptically - as we didn't want to straight up solve three quaters of Dox's thread and give him a chance to post more clues if he wanted so others could enjoy the fun of all the riddles.
Many may not realise that MiLes, Dox and a few others chat quite alot on Skype and it was a bit of fun to have with Dox... If you guys think I insulted you.. so be it. I probably did. I make no apologies for this.
From my point of view.. we were having a bit of fun.. then a good half dozen of people just started saying what we were posting was useless, pointless and 'Retarded' then called me a dick and suggested MiLes and I were trying to derail Dox's thread.
Hate me for it if you want to - I don't care. We were just the Hardy Boys - following our raging clues.
...
(I'd also just like to highlight that multiple posts complaining about a "pointless thread" is inherently even more pointless.)
At the end of the day, a mod thought it was pointless so he merged it with this one. What we think doesn't really matter.
~Edit: In response to Chad's post. Maybe they called you a dick because you insulted them? You can't act like a child and expect people to treat you like an adult. This all started because a mod merged the thread because he thought it was pointless. Some people agreed with it. Big deal?
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Azz had a chance at this one point in the game where he had a nexus and 6 probes. But he found a way to **** it up from there 3 times in a row - Iaguz
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At the end of the day, a mod thought it was pointless so he merged it with this one. What we think doesn't really matter.
~Edit: In response to Chad's post. Maybe they called you a dick because you insulted them? You can't act like a child and expect people to treat you like an adult. This all started because a mod merged the thread because he thought it was pointless. Some people agreed with it. Big deal?
That particular mod also didn't realise that the pictures were of sc2gears hotkey analysis... -_-
Also:
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Originally Posted by FaDeBadger
you can't act like a child and expect people to treat you like an adult
Thanks for treating my like a child.. You prove my point perfectly.
Many may not realise that MiLes, Dox and a few others chat quite alot on Skype and it was a bit of fun to have with Dox... If you guys think I insulted you.. so be it. I probably did. I make no apologies for this.
At the end of the day, a mod thought it was pointless so he merged it with this one. What we think doesn't really matter.
~Edit: In response to Chad's post. Maybe they called you a dick because you insulted them? You can't act like a child and expect people to treat you like an adult. This all started because a mod merged the thread because he thought it was pointless. Some people agreed with it. Big deal?
I don't think a single person is actually bothered by the threads being merged. Just the huge amount of negativity behind the posts in Miles' thread.
Potential NvZ?
There has not been a NvZ account spotted in the wild yet but if there was a zerg player to be added to the "team" then the Hardy Boys bet is on iceiceice.
iceiceice has been talking with EdgE about how he had to decide between DotA 2 and Starcraft 2 and he chose the latter because of the 1v1 aspect instead of teambased play, joining a team would help him achieve this goal. iceiceice currently has a 221-69 record on SEA GM ladder which shows he is a solid zerg player.
Also there may not be a NvZ because iceiceice is at a DotA 2 tournament atm which could explain him not playing?
edit: EdgE says it isn't ice but let us discuss.
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The Chad is great!
That particular mod also didn't realise that the pictures were of sc2gears hotkey analysis... -_-
He clearly stated he was talking about the other images, not those ones. This was already pointed out to you last time you complained.
And explicitly saying that everyone else who's posted in here is 'too retarded' to work it out is not just people thinking they are being insulted by you. Seriously.
Spreading misinformation and insults all over the place... T_T
I don't think a single person is actually bothered by the threads being merged. Just the huge amount of negativity behind the posts in Miles' thread.
There was a large amount of disapproval of the merging of the threads in the chatbox. Hence me stating it, it was even discussed with the mod why it was merged. It seems some people are determined to misinterpret what he and Erasmus were saying though. No skin off my nose, if I think a thread is pointless I just don't read it so I don't really see what the fuss is about.
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Azz had a chance at this one point in the game where he had a nexus and 6 probes. But he found a way to **** it up from there 3 times in a row - Iaguz
Sigh* eSports is getting waaaay more competitive in this regards. Even though its the early phases of the eSports era. In terms of management its quite exciting ^^
IM LOVING IT YO
Note: Im not talking about this BM this is from Management perspective
He clearly stated he was talking about the other images, not those ones. This was already pointed out to you last time you complained.
And explicitly saying that everyone else who's posted in here is 'too retarded' to work it out is not just people thinking they are being insulted by you. Seriously.
Spreading misinformation and insults all over the place... T_T
None of this matters lol. Everyone chill, and go back to your corners with your opinions intact.
Getting fired up over small details is missing the point, some people agree with this way of doing announcements, some people disagree. Some people agree with posting more clues when you know the answer, some people disagree. Some people think it's important to know things, some people don't. Some people think God exists, some people don't. You see a pattern here? You have an opinion, cool. But in the end raging at each other to see a point of view when it's in fact fine to believe either side is actually rediculous.
Let's get this silly announcement thread back on track please. Don't be moonstars.
Potential NvZ?
There has not been a NvZ account spotted in the wild yet but if there was a zerg player to be added to the "team" then the Hardy Boys bet is on iceiceice.
iceiceice has been talking with EdgE about how he had to decide between DotA 2 and Starcraft 2 and he chose the latter because of the 1v1 aspect instead of teambased play, joining a team would help him achieve this goal. iceiceice currently has a 221-69 record on SEA GM ladder which shows he is a solid zerg player.
Also there may not be a NvZ because iceiceice is at a DotA 2 tournament atm which could explain him not playing?
edit: EdgE says it isn't ice but let us discuss.
Perhaps NvP & NvT were too easy and NvZ is concealing himself a little less conspicuously.
Potential NvZ?
There has not been a NvZ account spotted in the wild.
Spartaz will try finding it and shall catch it with his master ball ^^ .
Sigh* just remember guys, manner up theres only 4 days left until this announcement is released a long side the official statement from Dox.
In which I wish him luck in this venture and I hope for the best, that this will really benefit and add to the eSports community (:. Goodluck Doxy mate
This, I feels like ive gone back in time and witnessing another COD 4 vs COD 6 epeen fight
come on SCII we're suppose to be the mannered community
this is relevant I believe
CoD 4 is clearly better than CoD 6 and don't you even question it!
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Azz had a chance at this one point in the game where he had a nexus and 6 probes. But he found a way to **** it up from there 3 times in a row - Iaguz
Today 2:51 PM: TAChadMann: the OP picture
Today 2:50 PM: TAChadMann: what other pictures are there?
Today 2:50 PM: |Erasmus|: not the analysis pictures
Today 2:50 PM: TAChadMann: so point 2 is invalid.. and not 'sensible'...
Today 2:50 PM: |Erasmus|: psst... he's talking about the OP, chadmann
Today 2:50 PM: FaDeBadger: I'm fairly sure he wasn't referring to the hotkey analysis pictures
Today 2:49 PM: TARogue: lol minimat
Today 2:49 PM: TAminimat: what kind of a doctor are you mezza?
Today 2:49 PM: TAChadMann: if you enlarge them and care to look.. Today 2:49 PM: TAChadMann: errr Mezza.. the pictures are hotkey analysis from sc2gears
Today 2:54 PM: TAChadMann: people being cryptic isn't retarded... the retards are the one without the capacity to see the fun in not having answers spoon fed..
Am I still misquoting you? Seriously, what is your problem?
Today 2:51 PM: TAChadMann: the OP picture
Today 2:50 PM: TAChadMann: what other pictures are there?
Today 2:50 PM: |Erasmus|: not the analysis pictures
Today 2:50 PM: TAChadMann: so point 2 is invalid.. and not 'sensible'...
Today 2:50 PM: |Erasmus|: psst... he's talking about the OP, chadmann
Today 2:50 PM: FaDeBadger: I'm fairly sure he wasn't referring to the hotkey analysis pictures
Today 2:49 PM: TARogue: lol minimat
Today 2:49 PM: TAminimat: what kind of a doctor are you mezza?
Today 2:49 PM: TAChadMann: if you enlarge them and care to look.. Today 2:49 PM: TAChadMann: errr Mezza.. the pictures are hotkey analysis from sc2gears
Am I still misquoting you? Seriously, what is your problem?
I love that you leave out that the OP picture contains Base code that when decoded (simply) gives you the pictures with the hotkey analysis and an explanation as to why each person should belong to the Nv account.
The fact is - 4-5 people just went at me, saying it was all pointless and stupid.. when we were just having fun. I find that retarded. Never go full retard.
some people agree with this way of doing announcements, some people disagree. Some people agree with posting more clues when you know the answer, some people disagree. Some people think it's important to know things, some people don't. Some people think God exists, some people don't. You see a pattern here?
I think I get it. Disagree, disagree, disagree and disagree respectively. Was that the pattern? Is this another clue?
Should I take a screenshot so I have proof later if someone comes up with the same answer I'm the smartest?
Today 2:51 PM: TAChadMann: the OP picture
Today 2:50 PM: TAChadMann: what other pictures are there?
Today 2:50 PM: |Erasmus|: not the analysis pictures
Today 2:50 PM: TAChadMann: so point 2 is invalid.. and not 'sensible'...
Today 2:50 PM: |Erasmus|: psst... he's talking about the OP, chadmann
Today 2:50 PM: FaDeBadger: I'm fairly sure he wasn't referring to the hotkey analysis pictures
Today 2:49 PM: TARogue: lol minimat
Today 2:49 PM: TAminimat: what kind of a doctor are you mezza?
Today 2:49 PM: TAChadMann: if you enlarge them and care to look.. Today 2:49 PM: TAChadMann: errr Mezza.. the pictures are hotkey analysis from sc2gears
Today 2:54 PM: TAChadMann: people being cryptic isn't retarded... the retards are the one without the capacity to see the fun in not having answers spoon fed..
Am I still misquoting you? Seriously, what is your problem?
He doesn't call people retarded for not figuring it out, he calls the people who think the way dox is announcing it is not only not fun, but could not be considered fun in anyway for anyone, retarded.
Holy shit. You just owned yourself there.
Anyway, MiLes is one of the very, very few who came forth with proper evidence and his explanation of the evidence to how he got his answers. Most of you have done nothing but change your mind every 2nd page and post pure guesses, then ripped on him for it being "what we all pretty much assumed" when he posted the proper work done to get to his answer on what the announcement might be.
Anyway, MiLes is one of the very, very few who came forth with proper evidence and his explanation of the evidence to how he got his answers. The rest of you have done nothing but change your mind every 2nd page and post pure guesses, then ripped on him for it being "what we all pretty much assumed" when he posted the proper work done to get to his answer on what the announcement might be.
I just gotta give credit to the crew here.
If it weren't for EdgE I wouldn't of bothered working on getting Hardy Evidence, and the other boiz as well they came in and we even got cool detective names!
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The Chad is great!
I just gotta give credit to the crew here.
If it weren't for EdgE I wouldn't of bothered working on getting Hardy Evidence, and the other boiz as well they came in and we even got cool detective names!
avanar's pic is freaken awesome
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[07-10, 22:00] PiG Unfortunately I'm incredibly lazy so most of my video footage is just me and iaguz in bed
Top right = krunch (I think)
Bottom right = ChadMann
ah sorry, Ive only seen chadman once and that was Benji's ACL vid and he looks different there, as for krunch, wasnt he part of Pinder's retro rumbles, the face is now coming back to me
give me a break Ive had roughly 4 hours sleep since saturday morning -_-
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[07-10, 22:00] PiG Unfortunately I'm incredibly lazy so most of my video footage is just me and iaguz in bed
ah sorry, Ive only seen chadman once and that was Benji's ACL vid and he looks different there, as for krunch, wasnt he part of Pinder's retro rumbles, the face is now coming back to me
give me a break Ive had roughly 4 hours sleep since saturday morning -_-
Yeah Krunch was part of Pinder's retro rumbles, get more sleep buddy! It's good for ya.
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The Chad is great!
Just to clarify, I only registered players who had already been revealed. This is nothing you guys didn't already know a week ago! No news has been broken. The announcement will still go ahead tomorrow as planned.
[11:21 AM] xGKingBenji: looks like dox's team is out of the bag
[11:22 AM] ToREchoes: Nv ey
[11:22 AM] ToREchoes: damn i didnt guess any of those players
[11:22 AM] Fadey: morning all
[11:22 AM] ToREchoes: cept deth
[11:23 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: i guessed all 4 in the end
[11:23 AM] ToREchoes: i really thought rossi
[11:23 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: Yoon Deth a Pinder were easy
[11:23 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: Dox I figured it was him a few days ago when he kepy going on abotu trying to get GM
[11:23 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: nah
[11:24 AM] xGKingBenji: how he finds time to play is beyond me
[11:24 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: Rossi wants more than a SEA team can offer
[11:24 AM] xGKingBenji: i barely have time to do a ladder game a week
[11:24 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: yeah im guessing thats why we never saw NvZ
[11:24 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: far too busy
[11:24 AM] ToREchoes: when is this match?
[11:24 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: well
[11:25 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: that was kinda anti climatic lol
[11:25 AM] Loach: Morning all.
[11:25 AM] xGKingBenji: its what happens when you drag things on and on
[11:25 AM] xGKingBenji: they get out
[11:25 AM] ToREchoes: sup loach
[11:25 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: half the team is banned from most SEA comps
[11:26 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: for the next 2 months still
[11:26 AM] xGKingBenji: pinder is unbanned
[11:26 AM] xGKingBenji: but deth, after his rage post on TL, dunno if hes gunna get unbanned for awhile
[11:26 AM] xGKingBenji: his 'apology'
[11:26 AM] xGKingBenji:
[11:26 AM] Loach: oh so dox's big announcement was he is making a team of 3 ppl?
[11:26 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: Pinder can join SEAL now?
[11:26 AM] xGKingBenji: seems a little forced given the context now
[11:27 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: 4 people
[11:27 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: including himself
[11:27 AM] xGKingBenji: could be 5, just 1 player not keen on nasl
[11:27 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: true true
[11:27 AM] xGKingBenji: or targa who already qual'd
[11:27 AM] Loach: i knew it
[11:28 AM] Loach: i dislike the hype thred
[11:28 AM] ToREchoes: damn i really thought it was going to be 7
[11:28 AM] xGKingBenji: as do i
[11:28 AM] xGKingBenji: just turned into a clusterfuck
[11:28 AM] Loach: it was stupid
[11:28 AM] xGKingBenji: and without sponsor logos or anything, theres really no benefit from the exposure
[11:28 AM] Loach: y hype?
[11:28 AM] ToREchoes: i thought it was interesting, but i thought the annoucement would be heaps bigger
[11:29 AM] Loach: thats why i thought ppl were coming from overseas.. i saw dox and mayo talking - and mayo was tweeting ppl like grubby
[11:29 AM] xGKingBenji: yea, usually the announcement itself should be the hype
[11:32 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: make sure everyone knows now
[11:32 AM] Arnor@CityHunter: I love how Zendex wasnt even aware he was breaking news :P
pretty sure having these announcement of announcement threads create nothing but speculation
Heat? lol what does it concern me who the number #1 team is in Aus?
If I was you Id be more worried about Zerocraft BSG :P
okay.. let me rephrase.. speculation about someone else's business should be kept to yourself.. What Rossi does/is doing with finding a new team is his business and he will announce what is happening when that information is open. Until then it's rude to make public claims about what he may or may not be doing.
Speculate all you want about Dox's team and the public information that is available.. but if your savy to as much behind the scenes information on what people are doing in the eSports scene, you should keep that to yourself.
okay.. let me rephrase.. speculation about someone else's business should be kept to yourself.. What Rossi does/is doing with finding a new team is his business and he will announce what is happening when that information is open. Until then it's rude to make public claims about what he may or may not be doing.
Speculate all you want about Dox's team and the public information that is available.. but if your savy to as much behind the scenes information on what people are doing in the eSports scene, you should keep that to yourself.
Pretty sure your trying to create e-drama and are over exaggerating the situation, Ive apologized to Rossi, if he has an issue with what Ive said, I ask that you stay out of it and let us work it out.
How about we bring this little thing back on topic now.
I suspect Edge is one of the unannounced players, he is arguably the best unsigned Zerg in Australia, so if this is an Australian based team its likely one of the unannounced players is a Zerg (currently its 2x T, 1x P with Dox (Z) in a manager/coach role rather than a player)
What say you?
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[07-10, 22:00] PiG Unfortunately I'm incredibly lazy so most of my video footage is just me and iaguz in bed
So basically you're saying people should never gossip, good luck with that.
No, Gossip you can do what ever.. but if someone gives you private information, you should keep it that way.
I'm not making Drama - just saying, you shouldn't publicly speak on behalf of Rossi - and no offence I'm saying that publicly so people don't take what your saying and run with it. Rossi is in talks, no one knows who with, except for him and the teams he's talking to.. I wish him the best of luck.
Back on track,
EdgE - I doubt.. but NvZ hasn't hit the ladder yet... TargA hasn't had internet for the last month.. coincidence?..
TargA is in a road trip at the moment, he told something about a ring to throw in a volcano but i don't remember. And i don't think TargA will join a SEA team.
Would love to see EdgE as a part of this upcoming team.
Cam deserves some lime light such an incredible player. When he's not suffering from nerves he's one of the top handful of Zergs in SEA, and when there's that many Zergs that means something!
I have my reasons for thinking Edge > TargA some I cant say but the one I can say is
in chat this morning Edge claimed he didnt know about NASL sign ups, it just seemed a little weird to me that Deth and Pinder would signed up without mentioning it to Edge, again there could be a simple explaination e.g. they only saw it last minute and Edge was already asleep, but yeah something about that didnt quite add up
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[07-10, 22:00] PiG Unfortunately I'm incredibly lazy so most of my video footage is just me and iaguz in bed
I have my reasons for thinking Edge > TargA some I cant say but the one I can say is
in chat this morning Edge claimed he didnt know about NASL sign ups, it just seemed a little weird to me that Deth and Pinder would signed up without mentioning it to Edge, again there could be a simple explaination e.g. they only saw it last minute and Edge was already asleep, but yeah something about that didnt quite add up
We did not sign ourselves up, dox signed up for us cos he's Australia's #1 manager.
We did not sign ourselves up, dox signed up for us cos he's Australia's #1 manager.
Benji signed up Jaz and Mafia too... and Im fairly sure Infeza is more than capable of figuring out the difficult process of navigating a sign up page, But I assume a manager would inform (or atleast let him/her know asap) his/her team that he was signing them up to a comp...
Yes Im aware Dox signed you up (he told me in skype a few hours back), but given that wasnt public knowledge I didnt want to go mentioning it
How about this
Dox also signed up the other teams members but under secret smurf aliases because he knew the other members of the team werent 100% confirmed yet?
time to search the sign ups for clues!
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[07-10, 22:00] PiG Unfortunately I'm incredibly lazy so most of my video footage is just me and iaguz in bed
Last edited by ToR.Arnor; Fri, 10th-Feb-2012 at 12:59 PM.
Benji signed up Jaz and Mafia too... and I fairly sure Infeza is more than capable of figuring out the difficult process of navigating a sign up page, But I assume a manager would inform (or atleast let him/her know asap) his/her team that he was signing them up to a comp...
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