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View Poll Results: SSL Qualifiers increased to 64 single eliminate till 16, then double eliminate
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 12:59 AM BnetId: HDPhoenix.202  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 560 # 1
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SSL Jan Pre-Thread / SSL Dec Post-Discussion Thread

Hey everyone!

Once again, thank you for making SSL Dec an awesome event! Looking forward to seeing all of you at the next SSL.

SSL Jan will tentatively be held on 29th January, Saturday. There will be quite a few major changes, and they are all up for discussion. Nothing is fixed now, not even the date. This is a pre-thread

Registration will be open 8th Jan, Sat

SSL -Patch 4.012- Jan

- (edited) Brackets have been extended to unlimited!

- (edited) The top 2 players from SSL Dec will be seeded in the round of 16.

- (edited) [ONLINE Qualifiers, Stage 1] Players will be split into 7 groups. Recognized players (top 8 placements in any recent SEA tournament) will be seeded and will be randomly split amongst the 7 groups first. The remaining players will then be randomly split amongst the 7 groups. Group stage is Round Robin and will run for a week to allow for as many matches as possible between players. It will be best of 3, maps to be decided. Top 2 of each group will advance to the round of 16

- (edited) [ONLINE Qualifiers, Stage 2] The top 2 seeds from SSL Dec will be split into the top and bottom arms. The 14 qualifiers from group stage will then be randomly split. This will be best of 3, double elimination and players will have set dates to complete their matches in order to advance. Time frame should be 2 weeks for completion, dates to be decided. Matches will be played till there is 2 players left in the Upper Bracket and 1 player left in the Lower Bracket.

i.e. ONLY the Upper Bracket Finals, Lower Bracket Finals and Grand Finals will be casted live for SSL. Gone are the tedious round of 16 matches. Players can rest and focus on their strategies for just 1-2 opponents and better games will result and spectators will have more action at a faster pace

- Raynor's Party will make a comeback as an official tournament! There will be 64 slots for an online qualifier, so 8 seperate Raynor's parties. The winner of each party will play live at SSL for prizes and internet glory!

- Roach range is reduced to 2

- Sentry force field is now researchable and cost 50 minerals, 100 gas and 110 build time. Researched at Twilight Council

- Stimpack research now requires Ghost Academy



SSL Dec Post Discussion

We require more feedback on what you liked, what you hated and what could be improved about SSL Dec. No Hold Bars, let me hear what you think ^_^;;

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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:17 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: eehanProAnnn.969  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 694 # 2
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[QUOTE=HDPhoenix;4352]
- Roach range is reduced to 2

- Sentry force field is now researchable and cost 50 minerals, 100 gas and 110 build time. Researched at Twilight Council

- Stimpack research now requires Ghost Academy

Awesome changes! No FF for Toss! No Stims for Terran. I'll play banelings every game instead of roaches! HAHA

I luv the Raynor party one too. Isit for real???
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:31 AM BnetId: Brultze. 398  Race: Clan: nRv  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 369 # 3
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Are you serious!?!?! Now toss has to research FF?!?! Crap!!! If it is im gonna need to switch race... without FF toss will lose to almost every cheese...
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:42 AM BnetId: HDPhoenix.202  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 560 # 4
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Are you serious!?!?! Now toss has to research FF?!?! Crap!!! If it is im gonna need to switch race... without FF toss will lose to almost every cheese...
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:56 AM BnetId: Brultze. 398  Race: Clan: nRv  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 369 # 5
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Lol. whats that suppose to mean HD? anyway, hoping for SSL jan to be in mid afternoon so i can attend
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:57 AM BnetId: Brultze. 398  Race: Clan: nRv  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 369 # 6
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Oh and will there be a comic tourny for SSL Dec photos? And who won the Nov one
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 2:00 AM BnetId: HDPhoenix.202  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 560 # 7
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Lol. whats that suppose to mean HD? anyway, hoping for SSL jan to be in mid afternoon so i can attend
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Oh and will there be a comic tourny for SSL Dec photos? And who won the Nov one
The next SSL should be from 6pm to 8pm, with the Raynor's Party starting at 5pm

There will not be another comic tournament, it kinda... well epic failed. Hahha, so no winner for SSL Nov comic since like... 2 people voted =(
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 2:06 AM BnetId: Brultze. 398  Race: Clan: nRv  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 369 # 8
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Awww right i should be able to attend . I would have voted for the comic tourny but i knew about it too late . Im sure that there would be more ppl participating just that very few ppl knew about it. Like me Btw pls feedback the latest part of the story, need to make it better
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oxy/rev shld be directly seeded into top 16 imo based on their past results

double elimation for the other top 14 or two single elimination tournies. a sole single elimiantion toruney might be too unforgiving. i mean ninpo/randy probably would make top16 but they met me and tendersteak in the ro32

i love that theres gonna be a tournament for raynors party haha
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 2:20 AM BnetId: HDPhoenix.202  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 560 # 10
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oxy/rev shld be directly seeded into top 16 imo based on their past results

double elimation for the other top 14 or two single elimination tournies. a sole single elimiantion toruney might be too unforgiving. i mean ninpo/randy probably would make top16 but they met me and tendersteak in the ro32

i love that theres gonna be a tournament for raynors party haha
True true... perhaps the other way is to do with 7 buckets of players and the top 2 of each bucket gets into the top 16. SSL Dec top 2, as suggested, should be seeded.

Its still all up for discussion =)
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 3:14 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: GGMuse  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 199 # 11
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True true... perhaps the other way is to do with 7 buckets of players and the top 2 of each bucket gets into the top 16. SSL Dec top 2, as suggested, should be seeded.

Its still all up for discussion =)
I think the best way to do it is still via online group stages, where the top 2 of each group proceeds and the players would organize matches themselves(else they get walkover-ed). It's also more versatile as if you have <64 players you could adjust the size of the groups/number of people to proceed from each group and seed the top few players from previous SSLs accordingly.

For etc,
if there were 44 signups(including oxy&rev),

you could seed both of them and put the rest of the 42 into Groups of 6. So there would be 7 groups and top 2 from each group proceeds which means you'll end up with 14 players advancing... + oxy and rev = 16.

And if you have a 36 players.. just make 6 groups of 6 without seeding, etc

Might be a little more work but fairer and more flexible imo. you wont leave out those who sign up slightly later either...
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:22 PM BnetId: ThisIsBlurry.593  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 29 # 12
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I think the best way to do it is still via online group stages, where the top 2 of each group proceeds and the players would organize matches themselves(else they get walkover-ed). It's also more versatile as if you have <64 players you could adjust the size of the groups/number of people to proceed from each group and seed the top few players from previous SSLs accordingly.

For etc,
if there were 44 signups(including oxy&rev),

you could seed both of them and put the rest of the 42 into Groups of 6. So there would be 7 groups and top 2 from each group proceeds which means you'll end up with 14 players advancing... + oxy and rev = 16.

And if you have a 36 players.. just make 6 groups of 6 without seeding, etc

Might be a little more work but fairer and more flexible imo. you wont leave out those who sign up slightly later either...
I support MUSE opinion.
Online group stages will be better, just like world cup.
The top players with most achievements will be in different groups (so that in one group won't have all the top players).
Then the rest will just be "randomly place". Same format as World Cup. Then the top 2 will proceed to the round of 16.

So there's no need for double elimination in RO64 etc which might makes things too complicated.
Also, group stages are more flexible as we can arrange playing time with our opponents separately or beforehand.

To do a knockout system need a more specific number. But group stages, any number is possible.
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 1:32 PM BnetId: simplytemeka. 207  Race: Total Posts Made: 25 # 13
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o_o hd where did you get the patch notes from?
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o_o hd where did you get the patch notes from?
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I think the best way to do it is still via online group stages, where the top 2 of each group proceeds and the players would organize matches themselves(else they get walkover-ed). It's also more versatile as if you have <64 players you could adjust the size of the groups/number of people to proceed from each group and seed the top few players from previous SSLs accordingly.

For etc,
if there were 44 signups(including oxy&rev),

you could seed both of them and put the rest of the 42 into Groups of 6. So there would be 7 groups and top 2 from each group proceeds which means you'll end up with 14 players advancing... + oxy and rev = 16.

And if you have a 36 players.. just make 6 groups of 6 without seeding, etc

Might be a little more work but fairer and more flexible imo. you wont leave out those who sign up slightly later either...

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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 5:19 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Mezza.445  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 313 # 16
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blah, i went to google it, ghostcrawler is from the WOW balance team and protoss would get smashed standing still if they didn't have FF research done for certain maps
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Old Wed, 29th-Dec-2010, 5:44 PM BnetId: HDPhoenix.202  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 560 # 17
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@ Mezza and SimplyTemaka: double gotcha! I'm trolling ^____^
edit: You play WoW Mezza and you don't know who Ghostcrawler is? He is only the lead designer for WoW =O You must be a Wrathbaby ^^

@ Progression/nGenJuicy: I need your email so I can include you in the crew debrief and feedback email I am working on pls. Email me at HDPhoenixx@gmail.com. Thanks!

@ GGMuse: Yes, great suggestion. That will most likely be the new direction I take with SSL and other tournaments =)
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yeah i only started in wrath, i spent the time during vanilla and BC playing Guildwars instead, which was a much better PvP game, the most epic 8v8 games of guild vs guild matches was just too awesome. GW also spawned the arena system from which the WOW bought their arena system from. which is a poor poor imitation of the GuildWars system.
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lol missed your msg junge_999_@hotmail.com my email
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i dun play WoW so i dunno who ghostcrawler is lol..
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