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**ToRSpartaz** · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:04 PM

For some reason, this has deeply offended me, for years of following professional StarCraft, for the competitive scene to be so diluted by match-fixing, its made me want to see where our own scene stands on this issue.

I remember Life's first big tournament win, watching the game live, and to me it feels that experience is inauthentic considering the recent actions of the player, and many others in a similar position.

I may get around to doing a TD;DR for the Team Liquid post, but in the meantime, what do you, the Sc2sea community, think about this particular issue?

**mGGNemesis** · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:05 PM

This is also another 'relevant' article : https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/c...m_of_gambling/

syfNaMeK · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:23 PM

I personally think its quite funny how people had hopes for him getting out of this. Ever since he first got arrested, he was done. There was no way he was innocent.

As far as I'm concerned I couldn't care less about him any more. Good riddance basically.

Frustration · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:24 PM

I think no1 should care about it, because its going to happen and it happens 24/7 in the whole world in everything Sports Gaming Everything, so yeah i would just say who cares.

asdfSchnitzel · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:26 PM

Life was pretty obvious at this point, Bbyong a fair bit more surprising

**syfRize** · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by syfNaMeK

I personally think its quite funny how people had hopes for him getting out of this.

Yeah I find people's hope (however false it might be) pretty amusing too, shame on them for clinging to whatever small chance there is that they won't be hurt by the outcome.

haven't seen a world news post on here in so long, wew

sRRising · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 6:53 PM

good riddance, thank god life is gone!

syfIce · Fri, 22nd-Apr-2016, 9:34 PM

its a bit of a shame a lot people look up to both players and they go ahead and do what they do :S

**Philosopher** · Sat, 23rd-Apr-2016, 9:15 AM

Scum of the ******* earth. Should not have to mention their names again ever.

Matt93 · Sun, 24th-Apr-2016, 11:37 AM

Anyone have vods for the games Life threw? Would be interesting to see what he did and if it was obvious or if it was betting patterns that betrayed him.

Also, that's a thing I love about the SC2 community vs the CSGO one. In SC2 if you matchfix you're a piece of shit, but in CSGO matchfixers are seen as victims of Valve's evil and have people trying non-stop to get them unbanned. Weird stuff.

**syfRize** · Sun, 24th-Apr-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt93

Anyone have vods for the games Life threw? Would be interesting to see what he did and if it was obvious or if it was betting patterns that betrayed him.

Also, that's a thing I love about the SC2 community vs the CSGO one. In SC2 if you matchfix you're a piece of shit, but in CSGO matchfixers are seen as victims of Valve's evil and have people trying non-stop to get them unbanned. Weird stuff.

Life v Terminator game - Quick GG, casters even noticed it.

Life v Dream game - Loooooots of errors all game.

**mGGNemesis** · Sun, 24th-Apr-2016, 11:43 AM

Life vs Terminator Game 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMka7P3dO7M

If I find the other I'll let u know or someone else might be able to link it

edit: rize linked both life's vods ^^

SLCN.NXZ · Mon, 2nd-May-2016, 12:03 PM

I'm disappointed that players do this and ruin their careers but to me it doesn't diminish their accomplishments at all. Stain their legacy, of course but to me, Life is still the incredible world beating player that he always was. He wasn't caught cheating where all his achievements are potentially not his own, he still earned those wins and as a fan of great zerg play that is what matters most to me.

From my understanding, Life didn't lose either of the series that he match fixed which is pretty nuts that he was able to throw a game and still pull out the win. It's an awful thing to fix matches and intentionally lose because of the damage to the competitive integrity of the game but I urge people to not diminish the previous achievements of these players.

That's my perspective.

SLCN.Wally · Mon, 2nd-May-2016, 12:33 PM

I agree with Ryan, the fact is he should be banned but I feel more bad for the guy than anything else. He obviously had troubles outside the game and he has tarnished his whole life. As far as I know it is incredibly hard to get a job with a criminal record in Korea. So really he threw 2 games in a wonderful career, tarnished forever but a wonderful career none the less. I really hope he gets help for his problems and can hopefully come out ok at the end. Also hope he doesn't do anything bad for 3 years because I don't want him to go to jail.

**syfChadMann** · Mon, 2nd-May-2016, 8:36 PM

Sounds like he..... ruined his Life.

Read a tweet from Petraeus that he was offered money to throw matches when he moved to ROOT house.. interesting to see how wide spread it must be! Still I think the criminals are the match fixers not as such the players. Esports gamers are often low income struggling with issues of putting in hours and hours of work with little return, not suprising many of them are tempted to throw games..

Frustration · Mon, 2nd-May-2016, 8:44 PM

i threw all my games for matchfixing to earn $$ its why i can buy so many pingas