[Shieldz]

Now its a lot better without the rep system :P.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Nemo

At the the contrary, I preferred things before. Up voting helpful posts was a way for me to give a little "gift" to people who are doing the invisible work. It's no longer available and I think it will have a bad effect on motivation for those on the long term.

Today I wanted to give Aequitas upvote for a replay analysis, I only could give this smirk face, it doesn't seem the same.

I vote for making like it was before : 3 levels of comments appreciation and rep point count. I don't care if some people get their points for pure "coolness", I care that those having some for work don't get them any more.

I think the big problem is that we went to like/dislike, but the culture never changed that it wasn't just about the one post. Maybe it could go back to the way it was before, but with no tracking of neg reps? That way, it doesn't stain peoples' personal record (which is what gets people annoyed IMO) and helps encourage people to like/dislike based on the merits of a single post, rather than the person posting.

[inFeZa]

It should be Starcraft Themed. I don't like this post, so i'm giving you a cloaked banshee.

Oh this is a good post.. here's some minerals.

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NOM:

Must build additional pylons before you give more minerals to " "

[syfMiley]

Liking the changes atm!

[Rage]

Originally Posted by SQL.inFeZa

It should be Starcraft Themed. I don't like this post, so i'm giving you a cloaked banshee.

Oh this is a good post.. here's some minerals.

That is a ******* awesome idea.

[Baldie]

Hahaha as if the original rep system wasn't centered around resources in the first place. Minerals for total posts and gas for rep likes

The only downside to no rep system at a core is it is harder for people new to the forums or who don't know the "names of the community" to source reputable members. It's good to hear that site achievements will now be taking preference over a rep system as this should avoid most of the issue. I just think it is important to create a system with achievements where we don't have 10,000 achievements but equally anybody can come to the site and go "oh this person has x amount of achievements, he/she is obviously someone with a good reputation. If I have questions I can perhaps contact them" etc.

EDIT: Another alternative is for achievements to have a hidden reputation level (e.g achievement x gives 50 hidden reputation points" and utilise the pre-existing ranking system located above icons. In the old rep system you would gain a higher "badge" based on your total reputation - much alike ranking up in the army. A system could be formed where lots of achievements aren't necessarily required, instead people can get a sense of your contribution to the community based on your rank.

Regardless if we are going down the path of achievements, the current layout for posts needs to be changed or we are going to eventually have 2 responses per page

[PiG]

Originally Posted by Nemo

At the the contrary, I preferred things before. Up voting helpful posts was a way for me to give a little "gift" to people who are doing the invisible work. It's no longer available and I think it will have a bad effect on motivation for those on the long term.

Today I wanted to give Aequitas upvote for a replay analysis, I only could give this smirk face, it doesn't seem the same.

I vote for making like it was before : 3 levels of comments appreciation and rep point count. I don't care if some people get their points for pure "coolness", I care that those having some for work don't get them any more.

I was sad to lose this positive element too! But it was often used to back up aggressive posts which leads to a bad forum culture. In the last month we had many people responding to slightly aggressive posts with even more aggressive posts because they would feel like they were being ganged up on simply because their were 5-6 +reps on the instigating post. There might be some "thankyou for quality post" option but the problem is stopping people from using that on a post that starts a fight.

I had a long think about it and think for the moment this is the best option. If someone makes a really valuable post then you can still respond and perhaps ask another question or even simply say "omg thankyou so much for that post it was very helpful". People have been saying to me "but we don't want the forum clogged up with posts like this". Meh I say. The fact that it takes more effort to make an actual post means if u get responses like that it means alot more then a few rep comments anyway. It also encourages people to post more actively.

Some have said to me that the commenting and +- rep helps encourage lurkers to post more but ive noticed for the most part it just allows the regular posters to find an easier way to interact to writing well thought out posts. This leads to an overall decline in forum quality.

TL;DR: Sad to lose the rep system but think there will be more positives than negatives!

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	nirvAnA:	so smart!
	Baldie:	I suggest putting the TL;DR part at the top alike an Executive Summary ^_^
	iM yang:	i disagree

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by PiG

I was sad to lose this positive element too! But it was often used to back up aggressive posts which leads to a bad forum culture. In the last month we had many people responding to slightly aggressive posts with even more aggressive posts because they would feel like they were being ganged up on simply because their were 5-6 +reps on the instigating post. There might be some "thankyou for quality post" option but the problem is stopping people from using that on a post that starts a fight.

Generally, suppressing good things because some people might abuse it is not a good thing.
I think generally really bad posts were downrepped and then discouraged. Of course you had some abuse of people being downreped because they were not howling with the others, it was not that frequent.

had a long think about it and think for the moment this is the best option. If someone makes a really valuable post then you can still respond and perhaps ask another question or even simply say "omg thankyou so much for that post it was very helpful". People have been saying to me "but we don't want the forum clogged up with posts like this". Meh I say. The fact that it takes more effort to make an actual post means if u get responses like that it means alot more then a few rep comments anyway. It also encourages people to post more actively.

10 posts of "thank you" is not possible. We had posts with nearly 30 upvotes, generally those people really appreciated it. Giving just a comment instead has not the same positive effect.

Some have said to me that the commenting and +- rep helps encourage lurkers to post more but ive noticed for the most part it just allows the regular posters to find an easier way to interact to writing well thought out posts. This leads to an overall decline in forum quality.

I don't understand this one.

Edit : Look at this to understand what I mean : http://www.sc2sea.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=522

[x5.NotoriouS]

Originally Posted by SQL.inFeZa

It should be Starcraft Themed. I don't like this post, so i'm giving you a cloaked banshee.

Oh this is a good post.. here's some minerals.

do this! ~~~

[Bash]

Originally Posted by SQL.inFeZa

It should be Starcraft Themed. I don't like this post, so i'm giving you a cloaked banshee.

Oh this is a good post.. here's some minerals.

only problem is all the site achievements and shit are being moved away from a starcraft theme, be a bit weird/inconsistent.

Would be sick as though.

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TheGentleman:

Not everything, the avatar rewards for posting still are SC2 themed.

[TheGentleman]

Remember, we are having new achievements added (see this post) to try and better encourage what the rep system was designed for. It has been proven in many games (World of Warcraft, StarCraft 2, Diablo 3, Skyrim, Team Fortress 2, etc...) that achievements are an excellent motivator and so with the new achievements on this website (New and Quality member of the Month/Fortnight) it's entirely possible that more quality posts will be seen.

[AsylumofSouls]

As an addition to this topic, can we change the comment function such that you can edit comments after you've posted them?
Spelling errors and comments made irrelevant by post edits are annoying

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TheGentleman:

This I feel is reasonable. Also the "Like it!" button should be changed to a "Comment" button.

[NOM]

I miss not having positive rep. smiley faces on the forums made me smile.
Now I find it rather bland with just text.

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AsylumofSouls:

I agree with this post :D