I have been around for awhile and Aequitas used to be a newbie Goldie who kept asking me for games. Look how far he has come!
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WhiteLuxury, admiting is probably better than denying when u are already caught. Unless you prefer playing by yourself and not talking to anyone in the community.
I've admitted that I streamsnipe and streamcheat. Even to the streamer themselves and in the game. But I am not a maphacker.
ACGAlliance suspected maphacker? im not sure :S but i go proxy 10/10 gate and he blindly makes a forge and 2 cannons on his mineral line without even scouting anything, seems suspicious to me.
what i also suspect is that he has that program which allows you to see your opponents production tab, because if you look at the replay, he knows a 10/10 gate is coming because he hovers around his base but doesnt know where it is, and proceeds to make 2 cannons because he knows its coming from somewhere..
Last edited by RivaL; Sun, 4th-Nov-2012 at 5:57 PM.
I don't play on the NA server with that name, if that's what you're trying to say. If not, then what is LG? And my name is Whiteluxury, not White. I haven't seen any posts on teamliquid regarding myself at all. Where did you get this information from? WTF?
I don't play on the NA server with that name, if that's what you're trying to say. If not, then what is LG? And my name is Whiteluxury, not White. I haven't seen any posts on teamliquid regarding myself at all. Where did you get this information from? WTF?
I can confirm that he said that was his name in the chatbox.
******* hell, thought he might have a chance. Nope, two games of me vs. Whiteluxury. First one isn't anything conclusive, just no scouting. Second PvP game 40 minutes later... yeah **** that.
Can we just put him on ban list? It is annoying as hell that u lose ur points to noob map hackers, at least putting it up here would alert ppl and maybe blizzard to ban him ASAP.
I suspect him of maphack after some events
8:10-30 kinda suspect a drop coming from me n decide to stay back in base(waiting anxiously for my warp prism from his camera point of view, moved in like in 10ms response time.. lol)
11:00 snipe of my ob instantly(or is there an easy way to spot obs?)
16:20 vikings ready for me with no vision
Conclusion: No solid evidence but certain events seems convincing to me such as the vikings.Just suspecting and posting up here for opinions.
lol LGwhite, obvious map hacker who proxy in-base 2gates in a four player map like entombed valley.
That + FaNaTic's replay about proxy-gating in-base on a 4 player map is already compelling evidence. And TL caught him too. Nemo / crAzerk normally make this call but they are busy i think and in this case its obvious enough.
Whiteluxury / LGWhite = Confirmed hacker.
He won't be banned from the forum as he hasn't done any bad forum behaviour but he will be banned from all sc2sea tournaments and will carry the badge of shame "Confirmed hacker" under his name for a long time.
6:00ish - dubious split of units - 2 marauders to handle the stalker at top watch tower, marines to take probe, when he had no vision of watchtowers and didn't know if there was anything at all there. hmm...
8:00 - odd placement of units, it's like he's expecting a drop. He did scan your robo before that, but he didn't see the prism or anything so no idea what tipped him. Could be prior games against you or a protoss that led him to be suspicious.
8:15-8:30 - I watched this sequence at least 10 times to try to understand what was happening.
Well, assuming he anticipated a drop - where would you put your marines? At the edge of your base, or closer to the cliff. He kept it in between his ramp and edge, so that seems normal - preparing for an incoming attack from either ramp or drop.
What was NOT normal was his camera sequence from 8:24 onwards. He was just looking at his CC/mineral line for the longest time from 8:20 for god knows what, at 8:27 he shifts down to look at where your warp prism is coming from (no vision yet), and at 8.30 shifts back up to right click down THE INSTANT the warp prism came into view. He is either very very lucky or he knows the prism was going to come then.
9:20 - rallies vikings towards warm prism. No vision at all. Could be a valid guess, that you kept your prism around there.
9:40 - looks into fog - directly at your warm prism, and then rallies vikings directly on top of it. There we go. This is the definitive proof for me. But let's keep watching.
9:47 - right clicking towards your main ramp as if he knows there's nothing immediately above the natural ramp. Any normal player wouldn't do this, because of Forcefields, etc.
11:00 - i dont know what to make of this - observers ARE visible even though they're cloaked, but he had his marines conveniently placed right below it. Plus it wasn't moving, and even as a replay watcher I'm trying my best to spot the observer and it's barely visible as it's concealed by your marines too. No idea how he saw it, though it's not impossible.
12:00 - checking out your army through the fog it seems. Not definitive though, he could be just moving his army below your ramp, but his camera hovered there for a tad too long.
15:23 - moving his marines forward to snipe an obs - that was not even his fog of war. The blur of the observer did appear for a brief second at 15:18, but the intentional sniping of it in fog is ridiculous.
16:12 - loads up bunkers for no apparent reason, apart from KNOWING that you are attacking.
17:40 - stimming 2 marauders to snipe an invisible zealot. Once again, not impossible, but pre-stimming it before even knowing if anything is there is a tad silly.
18:27 - snipes another stationary observer.
Conclusion - A bunch of sketchy actions, by themselves I wouldn't have drawn any conclusions, but the 9:40 staring into fog incident sealed the deal for me. Added to Confirmed Hackers. If he wants to defend his case feel free to post, though I don't see how you can justify staring into fog for 3 seconds at a unit you can't see.
Shall look at the other replay now.
Steven Zhou
0:33 - glances into fog - at the wrong base. Nothing to be said here.
1-1.30 - ok i dont think he's a hacker based on his clicking into the fog to scout - at the wrong base. But let's keep going.
5:20 - sends his probe to scout for proxies in his base. I dont think a maphacker does this.
cannon placement is dubious, yes, but he could've just assumed phoenix/DTs off your 2 gas. Nothing TOO suspicious
9:30 - runs observer into your army and loses it.
Ok I highly doubt he's a mpahacker, he's one of the worst in the world if he is one. If you have any other suspicious activity to report later on in the replay let me know, but I am going to stop here.
Last edited by crAzerk; Tue, 6th-Nov-2012 at 11:38 AM.
TY for the review. You observed lot more movements than me .. lol.
Anyway I don't think i have any prior games with him as I didn't play much.
yup does agree with you on the split to handle watchtowers..
about the ob at 11:00. Yea he probably can see it but he kind of snipe it instantly and at that moment I can barely see it myself after reviewing it couple times..
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Previously known as FaNaTic
Yea I just played Sacred;; 3 times, he didnt drone scout, when i 6pooled he walled the top of his ramp with forge and cannon, with NO scouting at all, he looked around my base with his camera, very quick about it, but still did it in all games.
edit: uploaded the 6pool game where it is very obvious
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Originally Posted by sREnigma
So I was playing on my bros account when I came across this diamond player called Sacred who played pretty weird... http://drop.sc/265588
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i did a search and found a replay vs sacred, it is incredibly obvious he is hacking.
spends the entire game looking into fog at my base or at my overlords (sends a queen way off creep to kill an unseen ovie at one point)
sends first overlord cross position on shakuras, doesn't drone scout or actually scout me with overlord at any point, doesn't put any overlords on the attack path.
with no scouting or vision of anything, he goes 13 pool and makes a spine as soon as it's finished (i think he sees one of my overlords (to 'know' my race) just after he throws down the spine. this is clearly in response to my 10 pool, which he shouldn't know about.
his mechanics and decision making are pretty terrible for his MMR, clearly boosted a ton by maphack
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i guess i need to learn how to play now...
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