yep thats him, unless its someone elses account he plays on. he was seen on a stream chat telling the streamer he would 'give' him the win when they meet on ladder. At a time when SEA was dead, and then proceeding to snipe him and give him the win. it was this account he was using. If this is your account I strongly suggest change the PW, he may have been #1 GM on SEA when you gave it to him but that doesnt make him good. Also, sorry kid but I really hate cheating and the lying you do to deny it [even though you admitted it the first time to me]. You should have stuck to your story and admitted to it here which wouldve been a good start. I'm sure all the best players have at least tried or seen a cheat to know the ins and outs at some point even though they wont care to admit it on forums
edit: sorry i mean't by ins and outs that they know how they work so that they dont waste their time by playing cheaters. and I just read the first page. I am simply confirming it's him I could dig up the VOD but i have better things to do
addit edit: http://www.twitch.tv/weedamins/b/344103827?t=1740m2540s. If you want evidence of good players trying cheats I won't be providing that, it's up to you to ask them face to face. same rules dont apply when playing cheaters and it's not something people want to spend time playing against. Hopefully there is nothing else I need to clarify above? good day
Last edited by billbill; Sat, 22nd-Dec-2012 at 6:35 AM.
I just versed a player in GM (rank 65) and plays protoss. Here is the replay. http://drop.sc/288622
He proxy two gated outside the front of my natural on Condemned RIdge without scouting anywhere. Later in the game, I did a large ling drop in his main, where all his stalkers were waiting. After watching the replay, I accused him, he replied "CONGRATEAION" which I think is meant to mean congratulations, so he basically admitted it.
In response to what was said about ReliC on page 55, I'd like to post a video of him vs me with analysis. I'm not linking the replay now as I'm not home on my pc, but since I'm only adding to someone else's comment, I hope it's ok.
I am not sure this should be the best place to post the replay due to this is a 4v4 game. After 3 game lost to them, and won them at the 4th game, our team analyst the replay and found that there is 1 player maphacking.
This player is maphacking, and fog of war few times in the mini map at the place which proxy starport. Later then that, after we report him is a maphacker, he spam in the channel and said our team member is a maphacker.
Very suspicious stuff here, I go roach/ling all-in, and he blindly counters it without scouting once the entire game.
Important points for maphacking: - Does not send an SCV to scout once in the entire game.
- Is sending a squad of marines out on the map, however (I assume he sees my roach warren complete/roaches build with production tab hack) randomly turns them around and suddenly goes home without doing anything.
- Goes for a really strange and non-standard early tank build. Note that he gets tech lab and factory after my roach warren starts building.
- Blindly builds second bunker and continues production of offensive units.
- Refuses to answer my reasonably asked query of how he knew this was coming. This means he is either a dick, or refusing to answer because he isn't smart enough to think of an excuse.
- Is set to "Only friends can message you." I might be being petty with this one, but it helps him avoid after game questions and lately I've noticed a trend of maphackers doing this.
Counterpoints: This was his 10th game in two seasons. A few seasons ago he went from Diamond to Masters, but has since become inactive on SEA at least. Never looks into fog of war, however with camera lock this point is irrelevant.
I mean sure, he could have been going for a turtle into old school marine-tank build, which is why this isn't 100% concrete, but it's definitely very suspicious. He's completely silent, doesn't scout once and somehow has the exact counter to my build.
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I talked to his following opponent, and what his opponent had to say to me was very interesting indeed.
What do you guys think?
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The Transformer Zerg, Jadron Burgerman @Soundwave
I regularly have starcraft decide not to register ALMOST all of my keys
Oddly some still work but hotkeys like S,D do not
No hacks involved in my games as it has happened on Ladder and custom games but its usually at start of matches
Not sure if helpful but it may just have been a bug
This happened to me once in a tourney. It was because I alt-tabbed out during the loading screen to change my music, then alt-tabbed back in. None of my hotkeys worked, but I could type in chat. Quick way to fix this is alt-tab out again and alt-tab back in. Or in my case, I was lucky enough that he let me remake the game.
This happened to me once in a tourney. It was because I alt-tabbed out during the loading screen to change my music, then alt-tabbed back in. None of my hotkeys worked, but I could type in chat. Quick way to fix this is alt-tab out again and alt-tab back in. Or in my case, I was lucky enough that he let me remake the game.
I am also aware of this problem, the guy makes it sound like he didn't alt tab and thus that's why he thinks he's a hacker, but I don't know. I guess we can't really put him as a confirmed maphacker without at least a few more replays and more evidence.
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The Transformer Zerg, Jadron Burgerman @Soundwave
I 13 drone rush him because I am the pinnicle of talent in SEA GM, he looks through fog and sees drones leaving base, sarcastically says:
[All]KiosVI: macro game?
He pulls back his probe from natural, not building a forge and chronoboosts out probes to defend my horrible drone all in (it was 5 in the morning, micro overrated)
Edit: I was random btw, so his Pylon on the low ground is fair suspicious too.
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Don't ban chase
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reactor hellion opening without knowing my race, doesn't attack with them until the exact moment i move my roaches out (no vision), happens to have 2 bunkers full of marauders before seeing a roach
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i guess i need to learn how to play now...
he and his friend KKTech said they were germans messing arround on SEA server with global play, seemed friendly (i hit them in 2v2 a few times). i didn't notice anything suspicious (then again, can be hard in 2v2)
here are the replays if you want to analyse them (all 2v2) i haven't looked through them myself.
I have included the replay.
He never scouts the entire game and kept looking at my army though the fog of war.
-He 7 pools and sends his lings straight to my base without ever scouting.
-I start building phoenix and he cancels his spire and builds blind spores. Just as he does this he looks at my phoenix through the fog of war (10.36 game time).
-At 13.32 he looks to see if I have taken a 3rd through the fog of war then checks my army and base.
-At 15.04 check my army that is about to attack through the fog of war.
and etc
definitely hacking
Last edited by VB_Boony; Sun, 10th-Feb-2013 at 8:45 AM.
Through talks with him (and him posting the links to hacks all over the sc2sea and mGG channel in game) I believe that darkleaf is indeed hacking (he has admitted it in these channels).
Before this incident DarkLeaf (aka Decay) has already been removed from mGG due to other issues he has been causing with in the clan.
Not to worry.... This guy is GM on NA and probably owns a crystal ball.
Chat
You: lol
Nerffy has reconnected.
You: nice mh
well done
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Nerffy: ?
You: you pull scv
before my
shit even gets in vision
Nerffy: i was transfering them
You: and 2 bunkers
really
55s5
Nerffy: yah im guarding my expo
gl proving anything
I just played 2 games versus Elano. In the first game he kept panning over to the top of my ramp. (He also had a few marines at the bottom of his ramp as an ''excuse'' to pan over to that location often.) In the second game I was proxying, and he selected an scv to chase my probe before it entered vision range. (This happened when he was starting his first supply depot, and it is highly unlikely that he was going to scout/gas with it as he was hovering over his ramp a couple seconds before my probe got there while having his scv selected.)
P.S. Watching the replays of him posted here makes it obvious too. He has a lot of early game pickoffs of units such as overlords and scouting workers, etc. Does not take towers, and pans into opponent base often although he masks it with random panning and having his army selected while he does so. One of the clever cheaters imo.
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